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Old May 16, 2005 | 11:39 AM
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lol

I'm in the same boat as well.

One thing that has me wondering, is how the canvas will meet up with the cab and create a weatherproof seal. ANyone have pics of how this is accomplished?

I plan on using snaps to snap the canvas to the metal frame.
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Old May 16, 2005 | 09:16 PM
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Yea...how does the canvas seal if it just snaps down on the top. Water would just get pushed under it by the wind, right?

I just love how we are all cruzin in this boat, anybody else?
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Old May 16, 2005 | 09:23 PM
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And about the conduit to use for the ribs. I found some thin and thick walled conduit at Lowes today. The thick walled stuff was heavy as hell, seemed like an overkill. They had some thin wall stuff that was much lighter and cheaper, yet still seemed rigid enough to support the top. Besides, I'm not going to use it as a roof rack, so it just has to support the canvas top.

Also, last night I found a great source for some outdoor fabrics.

http://www.beaconfabric.com/vindex.html?cat14.htm

These people seem like they really know what they are talking about. I'm going to call them tomorrow for some advice. I was thinking about getting some of this stuff in black and then coating it with some 303 spray

http://www.beaconfabric.com/vindex.html?cat14.htm

And then some of 30 guage clear vinyl for windows

http://www.beaconfabric.com/vindex.html?cat209.htm
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Old May 17, 2005 | 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by getitdone
Yea...how does the canvas seal if it just snaps down on the top. Water would just get pushed under it by the wind, right?

I just love how we are all cruzin in this boat, anybody else?
Chris, you should check out the channel that 4xjedi uses in his bikini kit the material fold over the channel then the channel presses agains the cab, I bet it would be perfect for you. I'll try to take some pic's of it tonight
Mike
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Old May 17, 2005 | 07:12 AM
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Cool, I love pics! I started on the 1X3" rails yesterday.

Going to the junkyard today for misc items including a set of rims. It's took a while because I was trying to be really acurate. Man it's fun to fabricate.

Pics soon.
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Old May 17, 2005 | 04:48 PM
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And about the conduit to use for the ribs. I found some thin and thick walled conduit at Lowes today. The thick walled stuff was heavy as hell, seemed like an overkill. They had some thin wall stuff that was much lighter and cheaper, yet still seemed rigid enough to support the top. Besides, I'm not going to use it as a roof rack, so it just has to support the canvas top.

Also, last night I found a great source for some outdoor fabrics.

http://www.beaconfabric.com/vindex.html?cat14.htm

These people seem like they really know what they are talking about. I'm going to call them tomorrow for some advice. I was thinking about getting some of this stuff in black and then coating it with some 303 spray

http://www.beaconfabric.com/vindex.html?cat14.htm

And then some of 30 guage clear vinyl for windows

http://www.beaconfabric.com/vindex.html?cat209.htm

hey great site thanx.

can-back uses that sunbrella stuff correct?
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Old May 17, 2005 | 07:25 PM
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search for sunbrella on e-bay its cheap and comes in tons of ugly colors or black
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Old May 17, 2005 | 07:38 PM
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Yes, they use sunbrella, but not plain sunbrella. See, Sunbrella is a woven fabric which is made to be breathable. When they use the sunbrella for soft tops like the can-back, they actually attach a waterproof vinyl fabric to the inside of the sunbrella to make it waterproof.

The stuff you see on ebay is just plain sunbrella, which is not waterproof.
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Old May 17, 2005 | 07:58 PM
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its water resistant though correct? like if it just drizzles and its not a hard rain it should be ok. because im thinking of just having the canvas on during summer. so actually i dont really need it to be water proof.
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Old May 17, 2005 | 08:18 PM
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Yea, its water repellant.

You could spray it with some water proofing spray, like this http://www.303products.com/main.php?...ge=fabricguard
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Old May 17, 2005 | 08:29 PM
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cool thanx for the info.
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Old May 17, 2005 | 08:34 PM
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It doesn't rain in the summer?
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Old May 18, 2005 | 06:22 AM
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Chris, here is a pic of how 4xjedi's kit mounts to the cab, let me know if you want to meet up and check it out




Sorry the pics are not more detailed
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Old May 18, 2005 | 03:13 PM
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It doesn't rain in the summer?
no it doesnt but during the nights and early mournings its foggy and damp. and it could rain during the summer maybe once or twice but not usually that often.
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Old May 18, 2005 | 07:08 PM
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You can bend square tubing, you just need the right die for the tube bender . I made this rack out of 3/4" square tube. The wall thickness has to be .065 or thicker for it not to collapse. For supports you'd be better off using round material. Round is stronger than square. When I fab my full soft top I'll use 3/4" conduit. Plenty strong enough and it can be bent with an inexpensive conduit bender.




All loaded up and ready to head out.
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Old May 18, 2005 | 07:16 PM
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Shiftless,

I found a better pic. Here's how the top should look mounted to the cab. Excuse the crude prototype channel lurking under the bikini, it was my first attempt a couple of years ago .

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Old May 18, 2005 | 07:18 PM
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hey man that is a sweet rack. i like how it sits in the back like that instead of on top. and you still have space below the rack to store stuff. well done.
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Old May 18, 2005 | 07:30 PM
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Thanks!
My cargo boxes fit under and the soft space-taking stuff goes on top. I made the mounts internally for a cleaner look. I then realized I can even mount the rack there with the hardtop on, if ever needed.
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Old May 18, 2005 | 07:43 PM
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yeh its sweet. ive never seen that done before.
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Old May 18, 2005 | 08:40 PM
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I can dig it.
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