Ric

1) which is better ?
2) why ?
3) what IS nao ?
4) is Midas "lifetime" brake promo worth it ?

Thankx all.
Ric

DavidA

My vote is for ceramic. Longer life, easier on the discs, less dust.

rimpainter.com

I think ceramic causes more dust.

Anyway, your best bet is PF pads from Autozone. They rock!

(I just got them)

Ric

thankx for the input guys, the reason im "thinking" about going to Midas is the lifetime brakes, with kids work and sports i dont have much time to be "working" on the runner, id rather be wheeling in that time, which isnt much time at all. 2 kids, 3 sports, and they want to wheel, camp etc. so my time s very limited, lol....
keep the thoughts coming.
Ric

turboale

Carbon metallic pads with slotted rotors was the first mod I did to my truck. Do a search, christian had an insightful discussion about brakes not too long ago. To make a long story short, I didn't get them this time around because I didn't want to wait for them to ship and I'm regretting it big time. I didn't notice THAT much of a differenc when I put them it, but I noticed a huge loss in brake power when I went back to the stockers. Just thought I would throw that out!

rimpainter.com

For the record, Midas jacked the brakes up on my 98 Tacoma big time. I will NEVER go back to them again. Yes, they attempted to fix the murderous squeal that they created, but I had to make 3 trips at 10 miles one way to their stinky domestic-ridden shop. Never again.

Pad replacement literally took me 20 minutes from start to finish, including wheel R&R.

Something to think about. It's REALLY easy.

foxtrapper

NAO stands for non-asbestos organic.

In comparing metalic with organic brake pads:

Semi-metalic brake pads wear longer and stand up to hard use better then an organic pad. They also wear out the rotor faster and squeal more.

Organic pads have greater initial "bite", and require less pedal force. They are easier on the rotor.

That's assuming all other things being equal, and the pads being of good quality. Well made organic pads will out perform poorly made metalics.

I drive hard, so I tend to like metalic or ceramic pads. If you drive gently, and like quiet brakes with a light touch, organics may be better suited.

Don't know Midas brakes, so I can't comment on them. I would not expect them to be particularly good though.

Ric

<96 Runner>,
thankx for the heads up, i thinking i WONT go there..

foxtrapper,
thankx man, that was exactly what i was looking for, ill go with the Organic,

thankx again everyone...



p.s. where can i get the Organic pads ? do they make them for both the front and rear ?

Ric

are they any good ?

foxtrapper

I know I don't like Raybestos. I've had several sets fail on me in past years. Worse failures would be having the bond glue fail, resulting in the liming coming off the shoe, and having a pad completely melt and drip all over the caliper. Generally a poorly made pad imo.

Ric

thats good to know, thankx man,,, any other brands of Organic ? and where could i get them ?
Ric

TACOMANATOR

MIdas gives you a lifetime garantee on the pads only.This does not include labor. Stay away from Midas.

instigator

Ric try to find the brand PBR they are organic and are made in australia they might also be called metal masters but they are made by the PBR people

Ric

instigator,
thankx, ill look for them