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Rear brakes (Drums) are looking up... help!!

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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by gpcollen1
When I replaced my seal, I had a very hard time pulling the drum off. The reason was the shoes were gummed up against the drum. Maybe with the heat a friction is does something to the already thick oil.
Bingo......leaky axle seals can cause either symptom (sticking or ineffective rear brakes). The heat from braking, as long as the leak is fairly small, will cause the oil to turn to resin/tar. If the leak is larger, the oil will soak the shoes and serve to continually lubricate the surface and simply render the rear drums useless during braking.

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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by <96 Runner>
Just curious if you noticed the (2) threaded holes on the drum. You can get correctly pitched bolts and screw them in each hole to free the drum from the shoes and pull it off.
Hey Christian, those holes become useless if you live in a rust belt.....need a PB blaster and a BFH to get them off.
......gets even worse if the shoes stick to the drum.

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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by NPE701
Saturating something in oil, especially brake shoes lining, doesn't necessarely make it more "slippery". Depends on how long that has been going on, what gear-oil and how much of it.

In my previous post consider "will" to be "might". =)
Ah.. I see
Thank you for the explination
I had huge leak on both sides...
You know how a car that burns oil you have to add a quart or 2 every time you drive it?
I had to do that every time I had to take it to the repair shop (took it to the stealership for the front brekas and then another guy for the rear seal and brake work...)
Still intresting...
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Old Dec 5, 2006 | 05:38 AM
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A actually began by tapping to get them off - like you should be able to after adjusting the brakes out. Then I tried a little prying to see if something was sticking. The I found some bolts that fit in those holes and had to turn and tap the drum - eventually she freed up and I replaced the seal.

My brakes were not 'locking' up on me but I can see why they might given the state of mine when I go the drums off. I had the slow leak kind that i took too long to fix.
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Old Aug 26, 2007 | 08:43 PM
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87 4runner Drum brakes locked up

My 87 4runner has the drivers side rear drum locked up. Seen where others have experienced this due to brake shoes sticking due to seal leaks. I sure hope that is the case and not rear axle damage. If anyone has experienced this please reply
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Old Aug 26, 2007 | 08:54 PM
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So is it really hard to replace the seals? Should I do the bearings as well? Do I need a press......What all is involved?
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 12:51 AM
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My brakes locked up on my '96 when the seals leaked. I could feel them "pop" going from a stand still.
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