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It's real now... the 4Runner will be gone tomorrow

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Old May 16, 2008 | 11:22 AM
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Unhappy It's real now... the 4Runner will be gone tomorrow

After 8 years of great service, awesome reliability and an overall wonderful ownership experience, my trusty 99 will be gone tomorrow...

I swear I will cry.

Hopefully, its semi-replacement (Subaru Legacy Wagon 2.5 GT limited 5-speed Stage 2) will bring a smile to my face everytime I press the fun pedal and unleash the 340 horses lurking under the hood... but nothing will ever replace the Toyota.

I will wash it one last time tonight, make it look nice for the buyer, and let it go.

It has been one heck of a ride, I wasn't much of a poster here, but I was back in the Outdoorwire days. I'm gonna miss the truck and the toyota crowd, that's for sure.

Thanks for the memories, guys.
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Old May 16, 2008 | 05:17 PM
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Sorry for your lose...too bad we can't grieve with you without pictures.
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Old May 16, 2008 | 05:36 PM
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Meh........
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Old May 16, 2008 | 06:01 PM
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i a sorry for your loss however i know subs well and the fun pedal works the all wheel drive is notghing short of awsome mpgs should be better too im not sure if the make a lift kit for it that will let you fit 33s but im sure with the right tires you could go through most things !
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Old May 16, 2008 | 06:21 PM
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Hugo, good luck with the Subaru.
Will you be getting another Toyota later?
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Old May 16, 2008 | 08:34 PM
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Legacy

I had Subaru Legacy AWD 5 speed the first time they came out in America grate car. I had fun with it for five years until this guy driving a Cavalier lost control on wet road and slam on my side, lucky me the car hit the pillar of my car and the dust board switched to the right and windshield shuttered. I said to my wife we have to get a truck and she suggest to get 4Runner and the smile on my face that's my dream truck. I have this 4R for then years now and I still love this truck. Next mod 33".

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Old May 17, 2008 | 02:14 AM
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Hugo, good luck with the Subaru.
Will you be getting another Toyota later?
Doubtful. With gas prices, any true off road vehicle I get would be a Jeep because I plan on selling my M3 as well but still want a convertible.

The 4Runner was one of the rare Toyotas that was not merely an appliance like the Corolla, Camry, etc... The FJ is another vehcile that gets enthusiasts hearts' pumping, but unless Toyota offers a manual-tranny equipped FJ with a part-time t-case and a turbo diesel, my «fun» Toyota days are over.

The model I really want is not offered here (Prado with a manual tranny and the 2.7 TD engine). Oh my... THAT is a sweet ride.
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Old May 17, 2008 | 05:51 AM
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I fear the day this will happen to me, I won't be getting a 4th gen since no manual tranny is offered.

best of luck with your subie-we share your taste for fine vehicles
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Old May 18, 2008 | 06:29 AM
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you need to be slapped for selling...you also need your man card taken away for wanting to cry..


aside from all the joking. you are replacing a toyota with a toyota, right?

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A SUBARU?!!?!!?ONEEI!!T!!!111THOUSAND!11!!!1!111

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Old May 18, 2008 | 07:27 AM
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I got to know, what is the morbid fasination with the diesels? they get only a few MPG's better than most of Toyota's petrol motors. The new diesels only get TOP's 28MPG highway (well that is what my friend gets in his 07 Hilux SRV 3.0 I6 Turbo diesel 4x4 intercooled).
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Old May 18, 2008 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Belize Off Road Team
I got to know, what is the morbid fasination with the diesels? they get only a few MPG's better than most of Toyota's petrol motors. The new diesels only get TOP's 28MPG highway (well that is what my friend gets in his 07 Hilux SRV 3.0 I6 Turbo diesel 4x4 intercooled).
The morbid fascination lies in the fact that many older diesels got significantly better mpg's than the gassers. You make a good point that I can't dispute about the new diesels getting only a few better mpgs than the new gassers, perhaps with Toyotas.

I can't comment on the new yota diesels but I can say this: My brother's 2005 Dodge one ton Cummins consistently gets 10.5 litre's/100km (22.4 USmpg) (26.9 Imperial mpg's) on the highway. Try getting that with the new 5.7 litre Tundra, good luck, or for that matter any new full size truck (ie. 5.7 litre Dodge Hemi). You would be lucky to get 15 US mpg's in any other non-diesel truck on the highway. That's 30+% better than the gassers in my eyes. My bro drove from Calgary to Vancouver and still had over a quarter tank left in his truck (that's 950+kms) which took about 95-100 litres (his tank holds 130 litres). For a full size, one ton long box quad cab truck, I'd consider that excellent.

With numbers that my bro is getting, I hope you can understand the morbid fascination with diesels when compared to the big gasser trucks.

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Old May 18, 2008 | 08:51 AM
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You would have to get the 1st gen Hilux to get 30+MPG on a non-VW diesel. but there are some rare times that a 91 hilux surf or diesel 4runner(two different vehicles) with the 3.0L Turbo Diesel intercooled can get around 31MPG real world numbers. the N/A 2.8L in the 90's and early 00's hilux can get around 33MPG(depending on the pressure on the gas pedal).
And this is just from what i have seen here in Central America. and most of the Yota Diesels have 500k+ miles on the motor.
I suppose i can understand why a few extra MPG saves a few $$ at the pump making it most wanted.
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Old May 18, 2008 | 09:44 AM
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Dang it, I'm looking for a '99 5sp too....!!!
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Old May 18, 2008 | 10:29 AM
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By the way Hugo, good luck. I'd love to have your new Suburu as our family's second vehicle. I am a little envious.

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Old May 19, 2008 | 08:00 AM
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I feel your pain, Hugo. Fill ups have been costing $40-$53, and it hurts when doing so every 3 days. I am going to pick up a Civic or a Fit this week. I will never sell the Tacoma.

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I can't comment on the new yota diesels but I can say this: My brother's 2005 Dodge one ton Cummins consistently gets 10.5 litre's/100km (22.4 USmpg) (26.9 Imperial mpg's) on the highway. Try getting that with the new 5.7 litre Tundra, good luck, or for that matter any new full size truck (ie. 5.7 litre Dodge Hemi). You would be lucky to get 15 US mpg's in any other non-diesel truck on the highway. That's 30+% better than the gassers in my eyes. My bro drove from Calgary to Vancouver and still had over a quarter tank left in his truck (that's 950+kms) which took about 95-100 litres (his tank holds 130 litres). For a full size, one ton long box quad cab truck, I'd consider that excellent.
If you figure in the extra $$ for diesel, it comes out to about the same.
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Old May 19, 2008 | 05:45 PM
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diesels are far more economical when towing.
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Old May 19, 2008 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by cackalak han
I feel your pain, Hugo. Fill ups have been costing $40-$53, and it hurts when doing so every 3 days. I am going to pick up a Civic or a Fit this week. I will never sell the Tacoma.



If you figure in the extra $$ for diesel, it comes out to about the same.
I understand your point, and to a certain degree agree with you. The extra cost comes from the higher price of the diesel vehicle. However, there is something nice about diesel especially if you drive all day or pull a trailer a lot or both. Here we only pay maybe an extra 2-5% for diesel fuel, but you can get anywhere from 20-40% better mpg.

It's like you are being kicked in the groin less often with regards to fill up frequency with a diesel. That appeals to me. Fact of the matter is that my brother's long box quad cab Cummins diesel one ton truck gets almost the same city mileage as my 4runner and doesn't do much worse than mine on the highway. Plus he can pull a heck of a lot more than I ever could. The sad thing is it's not a Yota.

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Old May 19, 2008 | 08:39 PM
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I didn't know diesel was only 2-5% more in Canada. It's more like 20-30% more here.
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Old May 19, 2008 | 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by cackalak han
I didn't know diesel was only 2-5% more in Canada. It's more like 20-30% more here.
Gas is $1.259/litre and diesel ranges from $1.25-$1.299/litre here where I live. It's a big country so some places may vary, just like the U.S. One month ago when I was in Tucson, gas was $3.15-3.19/gallon and other places in the U.S. it was in the high 3's and low 4's/gallon for regular gas. My point being diesel might be much more expensive in other parts of Canada.

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Old May 20, 2008 | 07:44 AM
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What about the "cool" factor of swapping over to purified veggie oil to use as fuel instead of diesel fuel .

I know a guy that owns a repair shop about 2 miles from where I live. (He's worked on a few of my family members cars.) He drives a Ford F-250 diesel and his tank holds roughly 37-40 gallons. With diesel hovering around $4.50 a gallon here, he pays close to $200 for a fill up.

About 6 months ago, he bought one of those veggie oil purify systems off the internet and absolutely loves it! Every week, he drives over to a local fast food chicken restaurant (or the like) and picks up their used oil for free...which usually comes in a 40-50 gallon drum. (They were paying to have it hauled off, so having someone pick it up for free was beneficial for both parties.) He takes it back to his shop, processes it thru his purifying system and in less than 24hrs, he has usuable fuel for his truck.

He has modified the system a bit to accept a 2nd layer of purifying to remove even the smallest contaminants (like chicken bits and what not). The system contains 2-3 silos as is. I heard the other day he was planning on purchasing another silo to increase his fuel production from 40 gallons a day to 80 gallons a day. Reason being, he's buying his wife and daughter both diesel jettas. They need fuel too right.

He has made no modification to his truck in any way to accept this new fuel. He just fills up his tank with it and goes. Says the only difference now he can tell with his truck is that the exhaust fumes smell like french fries and not diesel fuel.

As it stands right now with his system, he's averaging only $0.80 per gallon in fuel. That a good bit of savings IMO.

I personally have not talked to him in a while, but I can only assume he's still going strong with this system.
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