I am about to finally put on my HD rear OME coils and I need to know how and how much to crank up the torsion bars in the front? Thanks

 

Hi Caleb (that's my 20 year old son's name too ) see my website listed below in my sig file.

Then click on my mods area and then hit up page III.
I have links on it to adjust your T bars, and the part #'s for the bolts you should buy from your dealer just in case you snap one.
That can happen if they have sat for a long time.

You will need to get an alignment a few days later after the crank settles in.
Also note your height from the top of your wheel lip to the bottom of your fender well.

If you have ADD still, 14.50" is the max to stay safe.
If you have manual hubs, you can crank to 15".
That is about what mine is.
That info is detailed out in Chris Geiger's write-up.

Take pics when done. We want to see the rig sag free and cranked

 

i was just about to ask "should i get new / or crank my current t-bars" but...

grr.....:pat:

 

He he he, yeah, you have coil overs.

If you want something adjustable so you can crank them up if you add a bumper & winch, get a hold of Mike (Xtreme Off-road) on the board here.

He can get you the SAW coil overs.
They are working out a bug with the polyurethane bushing right now though from what I have been reading on Steve's post on ODW.

Another good adjustable coil over shock is the Kings.
They make them for 4Runners & Tacomas.
They are awesome looking.
http://www.kingshocks.com/Tacoma.jpg

They are more $$$ though than the SAW coil overs.
Either one of those Rowan would be nice for your rig.
Corey

 

yeah i dont know a lot about my truck yet, i havnt really had time to do anything with it, because it has been in the shop for most of the time i've owned it. those king shocks are sweet looking. do you have any idea how much those are vs. the coil overs from Xtreme?
one small point.. those green springs on the king shocks are coil overs, right?
please keep in mind i am 16 and dont know much... well acually i know more than most of my friends from reading on this site. lol.
thanks corey.

 

Rowan, those are more $$$ than the ones that Mike is able to get on the group buys with.

Yes, both them and the SAW's are coil overs. I don't know much about them since my rig does not use them, but I hear either of them is the hot setup to have on 3rd gen 4Runners and Tacomas since it allows you to dial in lift.
You place a spanner wrench on them I believe and turn.
They also both average over $600 a set.
But since they are adjustable, there are very versatile.

Quite a few run the SAW's on their rigs, and can you tell you how the ride quality is better than me guessing.
If I had a coil front rig, either set would be on it by now.

16, I thought you were older
My youngest son just turned 16 Saturday, and my oldest will be 20 in November.
Man, now I fee like an old
Corey

 

600 for the king shocks? or just the coil covers??? grrr too much too much!! but i might need them for the extra weight up front.

whats a good way to lift the rear? i guess i could just go with some 2" spacers, but id rather get some add-a-leaf's

 

That price is for the shock & coil. It's all integrated to work as a package.

I am not sure how to lift the rear of your type.
Some use longer shackles (greasables too) to lift, and also the add a leaf as you mentioned.

Some of those Taco sites have some pretty well detailed info.
Check out these three.

http://www.ttora-socal.com/~tmdavid/

http://www.slimer.com/Tacoma/

http://128.83.80.200/taco/index.html

 

from my understanding, the way the kinds mount, it's hard to get to the adjuster. the SAW adjuster is right there in the open, and not tucked behind something. i can only think of one or two running King Coilovers, yet 10+ running SAW.

 

The Kings are a nice shock, however, for $850 a kit you have to reeealllyy like them. I love my Sway-A-Ways and have never really considered the Kings. Sway-A-Way has been around for over 30 years, therefore, I believe they know what they are doing when it comes to suspension. I am sure they are both not without their faults, just like the bushing issue we are having...although small, a little aggravating.

Cobb from the looks of it you may be correct, they do look like a PITA to crank. Granted they are shipped at a predetermined height, however, I am sure adjustment will be necessary.

 

Hey Mike what do you think the Kings would sell for in a group buy? I would really like to find out some more feedback on them.

Just from looking at them, I like a lot of the design aspects over the SAWs. I like the idea of having a second heim joint at the top instead of the top bushing that the SAW's have. That's to allow the coil-overs to easily move through a small angle as they compress. It's nice that the King's schraeder valve is high and out of the way and I have heard that a 600 ppi coil is optimum for off-roading and are said to ride nice.

Thanks

 

Group buy? Hmmmm I could do them for $750 a set. Would need 10 people though...

 

xtreme- what about just the coil overs? thanks.

 

Ummm forgive me, what do you mean just the coil overs? A coil over is a single entity. Are you talking just springs or just shocks? I am not trying to be difficult, just trying to understand what you are asking.

 

I'd say don't crank t-bars any more than absolutly necessary to fit bigger tires. All it does is change the distances between A- arms and their respective bumpstops. Normally there is the same ammount of space between the top A-arm and top bumpstop as there is between the lower A-arm and lower bumpstops. Thats ideal because you have equal ammounts of stuff and droop for wheel travel. Cranking too far will put your upper A-arm much closer to its B-stop and you will have much less downward suspension travel available. Offroad your front tires will come off the ground that much faster.

Edit: while you are at it add low profile bumpstops also. Turn your lame 6 inches of wheel travel into a whopping 7 inches!

 

i was assuming the $750-850 was for the king shocks/coil overs that corey mentioned earlier in this post. he also said you could get just the coil overs, which would get me a bit of lift (without the shocks) i dont need new shocks. i want to get a lift without spending too much money.

thanks.

 

The coil overs is a complete package.
You get the coil & the shock.

One won't work without the other with either of these setups.
Corey

 

Hey bud, like Corey said, the coil over is the strut/coil. They come together, you cannot do anything without both of them

 

okay corey, thanks. i guess i missunderstood you. :pat: my bad.

 

If you just want a cheap way to lift the front go with spacers made by cornbred. I think they are around $150. They will give you 2.5" of lift in the front.

Or the 3" Revtek kit for a Tacoma will lift the front and rear costs about $460.00 here.

The 3" Revtek Lift Kit contains:

1 Pair Coil Spacers to lift the front.
1 Pair Blocks with U-Bolts to lift the rear.
1 Pair of Rancho Rear Shocks for lifted applications.

You use your stock front shocks with coil spacers to raise the front 3" and the blocks and Rancho shocks for the rear. It is a complete kit ... one stop shopping

Check with Mike at XtremeOff-Road on this one too, he is a Revtek Dealer.

This truck has a Revtek kit on it: