do you have them and think it has too much body roll? or are you asking before you install them?

 

It does have more body roll. In my opinion it is not too much. It just took a few days to get used to. Also keep in mind I do not have a rear sway bar either.

 

I have the Tundra coils, and I believe there is a lot more body roll than OME or SAW coils. From judging other's feedback, it seems they believe the rear LC coils create more body roll than their previous setup. So I already have complaints on my body roll and do not want to make it any worse by swapping in softer coils.

Thank you. Is the thing to do to ditch the rear swaybar? I still run mine, but what are the advantages of removing it?

 

Ryan, quit your bitchin'! If you're running swaybars fron the rear, your body roll is probably a lot less than any of the guys running without one, I can promise you that. If you think the Tundra coils up front are softer and yields more body roll, and that makes you more uncomfortable, don't got to the LC coils. I like body roll, because I can adjust it by simply attaching my addco front swaybar? Then off-road, I have a soft suspension that doesn't work against me when I'm trying to flex.

Chris

 

So guys I am stuck I have the money to go either way front LC coils in the rear of my 98 runner or OME I don't know which way to go. I am not looking for a massive lift Just enough to clear 285's without any rubbing. I guess I am just looking for opinions on what yall think. I like the idea of the LC coils and I have a set that I could use. By the way I plan on running the TRD lift in the front. Give me your opinions.

 

I have been towing my 5'x8' trailer with 3500# axle for the last week with 1.5 tons of gravel. I have the OME coils and shocks in the rear. I only have a slight bit of arse draggin' with that much weight.
My only reservations about the LC coils is heavy towing.

I am still looking into/ pricing leaf spring swap. I might have even found someone to do it

I too have noticed the body roll with the Tundra setup vs. stock and PP springs with Bilsteins, but it is tolerable for a truck with 33s. I do run both swaybars and find the ride better than my wife's SR5 with the PP stup

 

body roll this body roll that..just don't take corners at 93 mph, thats when body roll becomes a factor.

 

It's real simple guys, so pay close attention:

Rear end:
1) LC coils = Best Off-Road Performance
2) OME coils = Best Streetability and towing, less body roll

Front end:
1) Tundra coils = Best Off-Road Performance
2) OME or Spacers = Best Streetability, less body roll

Make sense?

Chris

P.S. And if you want the best of both worlds, do what I did and that's use air shocks in the rear with LC coils, which provides all the towing benefits and all the off-road benefits.

 

Why would you want to run OME coils that barely sag with 1.5 tons of gravel when you could run the LC coils with air shocks, pump 'em up while towing, and deflate them when you're off-roading.

Chris

 

I have towed similar loads with my LC coils (and OME shocks). Yes, it sags a little, but not enough to concern me. With towing, I thinks its more important to not excede tounge weight and GVW, and ensure your drop bar is long enough to keep from having the trailer at a funky angle, than to worry about an inch of sag...Just my opinion.

 

For those of yall who are running the LC coils what is your setup in the front? And is your runner sitting level or slightly off? One more thing how much lift are you getting from the LC springs because I am not looking to get a crap load of lift like it seems everyone else has?

 

I just took mine off when I put the LC coils on to try it out. With more lift the sway bar has the tendency to bend and hit the top of the e-locker cover when flexed out. You can either extend your sway bar links or leave it off.

When I first did it I noticed more body roll when making an evasive manuever. Now I have just gotten used to it.

I am not sure if there are any clear benefits of taking it off or not. I really didn't test it apples to apples.

 

Does anyone have some OME 891 coils to lift my runner 2.75" or so that in the rear that are for sale if so send me a PM and let me know I might very well be interested. Thanks

Anthony

 

I have thought about going with LC coils and airbags. I like the droop they give, plus I have used airbags before and like how they help with various loads.

I have the OMEs b/c when I bought all my stuff over 1.5 yrs ago, I didn't know about the LC coils.

The gravel was evenly distributed and I have a 7" drop hitch. My truck flexes well, rides great and I am very happy with it.
Before I go swapping things out, and buying new, I am going to look into a leaf spring setup. I need to get prices for all the parts needed.....

 

About $1000 in parts plus at least 20 hours labor to go leafs like Steve. I checked it out too and I tried the LC coils with towing, which did not work out that well. Bamachem is about to try my old LC coils with the airbags. I'm currently running OME 891's and a Daystar 1.5" spacer in the rear. I like this setup b/c it tows well, flexes well (not as easy as the LC coils but the shocks are the limiting factor anyway) and handles well if needed in an instant.

But, I don't like bodyroll like Chris. Chris knows what he is talking about though-he probably has the flexiest IFS third gen on the board.

 

When are you going to try out some longer shocks?

 

I've got to finish my fender trimming first, then I'm either going to design a front bumper or begin the rear suspension overhaul. I'm probably going to hold off on the suspension, because I've decided to redesign the whole thing with a 4link setup removing the panhard all together. Plus, I may or may not get longer shocks. It all depends on what I'll acheive once I triangulate the current shocks I have. My goal is to essentially get just the right amount of flex that the springs are still putting pressure on the ground, yet just about to unseat at the same time.

I've been wheeling here recently with a Jeep that has some crazy flex, open diffs front and rear, and it's amazing how that thing drives. Even though he's currently open, he go go further than me in most situations simply becuase his tires are planted on the ground.

Most of you guys know I'm true beleiver of flex, regardless of the Schaeffer's and others that think if you're locked front and rear it's not needed. The winning combination is to have both and the only way to do that effectively and safely on our rigs is to relocate the rear shocks, not just run longer shocks in the stock location. In addition, adding flex joints to at least one end of each link would be ideal if you didn't want to redesign the links all together. I still think you could easily gain 6" of travel with the LC coils and doing the above.

Chris

 

Hey Dragn1, How about some pics of your rig ! I want to see the look of the 891's with the spacer . ThanX

 

I know it will cost $$$$. I would probably go with LC coils and airbags if I didn't have OMEs. I am happy with the ride on and off road.

I did get some sag. They flex well and handle a heav load nicely. I will take some pics tomorrow of my ride with all the gravel--I have to get another 5 tons

I know Chris tows quads and you a camper.
I definately like the OEM style lift.

Side note: I am running OME 891s with factory cones.

 

Oops, yeah I'm running the cones (cut-off) with the 891's and 1.5" spacer.