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Jan 3, 2004 | 11:37 PM

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Robinhood150

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Originally posted by bobzemuda
Why are 4crawlers bolt on sliders so much less than say Stubbs bolt ons?

Not sure, but Roger is just a guy working out of his garage so I guess there's not much overhead. He does make quality stuff though and he's a great guy to talk to (he's the VP of my club).

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Jan 4, 2004 | 04:25 AM

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ravencr

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Mine are made out of 1/4" thick 1.5"x1.5" square tubing, and were very easy to make. They are welded to the frame using 1/4" 3.5"x3.5" plates at an angle to the frame. Here's the pics on my website: http://www.toyota-4runners.com/rock-sliders.html

Chris

Jan 4, 2004 | 05:21 AM

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Spectre

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Originally posted by Breezey
I think my sliders look the best / Weld on

Do you have more pictures of your rig?? and sliders?
What bumper is that?

Jan 4, 2004 | 05:46 AM

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Breezey

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I have tons of pictures

Jan 4, 2004 | 05:52 AM

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Spectre

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that is a very nice rig..thanks
How hard was it to go to the leafspring rear? do you like it better..or would you go back?

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Jan 4, 2004 | 06:34 AM

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Breezey

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This is my Daily driver, I really like them, and no I would not go back. To give you a idea of the rear flex, I could put one rear tire on a stock 4Runners hood, with all 3 of my tires on the ground

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I really like it

..... Doing my SAS ATM, should be done like the 18th...

Jan 4, 2004 | 08:41 AM

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JDeMello

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Re: few slider questions

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Originally posted by r854rnr
ok, I'm looking to get rid of my dumb running boards and get some sliders in their place. My first inclination is that I want square tubing and bolted to the frame (not welded).

My questions are:
what "features" do you people prefer in your sliders and why?
What material specifics are you peopl using? (steel thickness, shape, diameter...)
what mystakes have you found in previous designs?
Do you people prefer welding vs. bolting? I remember reading something about having appropriate suports on top and/or bottom of the frame where they attach or the frame might bend, is this true?

any other input you can send!

I can send yuo picks of how I make mine if you like.

Some key points .120 wall thickness on steel min!
min tube dia 1.5in I recomend 1.75in

4 mounts are ideal 3 will get you by and anything less you might as well have smitty builts.

Either use a big flat plate on the frame 4x4in or a piece of angle that grabs the bottom of the frame and face of it.

Weld on IMO is better. Done right it will be fine for the life of the truck. and painted afterwards right and rust should never be a problem.

Bolt on problems I have seen.
Comes loose
Cause rust after rubbing the frame.
Squeaks
Rattles.
No one ever takes them off again cause they are a paint to remove.

Any questions ask away!

Jan 4, 2004 | 10:20 AM

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85runner

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Originally posted by Robinhood150
Even if it bolts to a big ol' plate on the other side of the frame, with sleeves through the frame? The plate distributes the stress quite nicely I'd imagine. A properly designed bolt-on will distribute the forces to as much of the frame as possible. snip

That would definitly work very well and distribute stress better.

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Anyway, I think discussing the strength of weld on Vs bolt-on is an excercise in futility because if designed properly, neither will fail, something else is going to fail long before the sliders will. snip

For the way most people use them, that's very true.