Sass69

Search is down so I am not sure if there is any write-ups on this.

I know it says you can't drive on Hard Dry surfaces in 4Hi in the manual, and someone even told me that I can't use my 4Hi on the Highway even with some snow on it...... Is this true?

What kinda of damage would occur if you drove on Hard Dry surfaces anyway?

Breezey

You can drive in 4 High on or offroad. If you do use it on pavment can can wreck your gears and stuff. But in snow and etc 4 high you can turn it on / off at low speeds as long as your hubs are locked.

lee

thats for 2000 and earlier only, correct?

Plays_with_Toys

For highway you shouldn't need 4hi. At those speeds you don't need 4wd, in fact alot of people don't use it past 25-30mph. Transmission damage will incur if you drive past 50mph in 4hi. I use 4hi only up to 35mph, and thats only on unplowed roads because I have a pickup and usually don't have weight in the back, but 4runners have better weight over the rear axles.

As far as hard packed concrete, your front wheels need to have some slippage or else it is a large strain on your drivetrain components (drive shaft and CV's I believe).

EDIT: And you don't have to worry about your hubs being locked, unless you've switched your 96 to manual hubs, but these came standard on earlier models

rimpainter.com

Not true. Watch your speeds though. Keep it under the max 4WD HI speed (see manual).

The damage occurs from turning. You can wreck the gears in the front diff, etc.

Breezey

My book says dont go over 55 in 4 High... I use it on the highway in the snow.. Me truck drives like its on rails hehe

rimpainter.com

You guys get snow in Cali?

lee

i surer hope im right... cause ive driven several times at 65+ in 4hi.

Phil

I swear my manual said nothing about limiting speed, only that you must be going under 50 to engage it. It said you can disengage at any speed.

At least that's the way I read it, I may have to check again.

Sass69

I thought the same thing....... I believe it says this on that little card on the visor.

I didn't read anything about max speeds though.

PoBoy

It does...check again. I think it is also written on the card in the driverside sunvisor.

Sass69

Honestly...its night and day with 4wd on the highway, even better under braking conditions. Especially when I pass all the 2wd vehicles !!!! This is all when there is snow on the highway of course.

Breezey

In my Tacoma , I used to drive accross the salt flats in 4 high around 125MPH or so.. and never had any problems.. I think you just have to be in low speeds to put it in 4 wheel high..

OneTrickToy

You sure? I thought this is only the case in locked differentials. Stock fronts are open. Turning shouldn't be the issue but binding of the front axle in relation to the rear would be an issue. Since a hand transfer case(actual 4wd not AWD) would be the same as having the center locked. Correct me if I'm wrong.

lee

so no one knows if this is still true for 2001+?

i was under the impression theyd changed the system in 2001 making it able to be on at any time at any speed, able to turn, etc.

X-AWDriver

With the multimode AWD version can you drive any prudent speed;I squeezed just a hair over 150mph in my AWD Eclipse.

Sass69

It sure seems that there are a variety of different answers or opinions. This makes me nervous as I have been driving in 4hi on and off for the past 2 days. I checked the card on the visor, it doesn't say anything about max speeds etc.. It only states the speed at which you should engage or disengage.



I will check the manual tonight...anyone have theirs handy right now?



:pat:

rimpainter.com

I think the added pressure when the transfer case is engaged causes the damage I am talking about. Ever tried to turn in 4HI and felt that binding and heard the tire skidding?

I am not exactly sure what that is doing, but I have heard it puts excess pressure on the diffs.

Sass69

Does this mean its not good to give it a shot of gas when your in 4Hi??

4x4Lamm

A locker is irrelavent. Part time 4WD biases 50% of torque to the front and 50% to the rear driveshafts. The problem is that without a center diff or a VSC the wheel travel front and rear must be the same to not cause stress on the parts. You are only in danger from the third members back. When you turn, EVERY wheel takes its own path. Try it in fresh snow and look. Because of this in 4WD the two driveshafts cannot rotate the same ammount without tire slippage. The slippage is what keeps the shafts from twisting off or other damage occuring. In mud and snow the tires slip easily. On highly tractive surfaces they cannot. The damage will not be sudden, if you were to try to cause damage it would take a while but it can and will happen.