Broken Rear lug nut stud. Difficult repair?
02-12-2010, 12:03 PM
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Broken Rear lug nut stud. Difficult repair?
I ordered some offroad tires and they just got here today. Took the truck over to Mr. Tire and they called me saying one of the lug nuts was stuck and he said it probably would break, but they could fix it for $75ish.
He called back a half hour later saying that it did break but he didn't know it was one of the rear lug nuts. He went on saying they would have to take off the rear end, open up the axle and the bearings, push out the rod, repack the bearings, and put the axle on the truck. Which is A LOT of money at an hourly rate. I told them to just get the tire on and balance them, I'd have to get a second opinion about the stud.
Is he right? Is it a really difficult job to press out the studs from the rear axle?
An $80 mount and balance just ended up costing me several hundred dollars.
He called back a half hour later saying that it did break but he didn't know it was one of the rear lug nuts. He went on saying they would have to take off the rear end, open up the axle and the bearings, push out the rod, repack the bearings, and put the axle on the truck. Which is A LOT of money at an hourly rate. I told them to just get the tire on and balance them, I'd have to get a second opinion about the stud.
Is he right? Is it a really difficult job to press out the studs from the rear axle?
An $80 mount and balance just ended up costing me several hundred dollars.
02-12-2010, 12:21 PM
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Ive broken plenty of lugnuts on many different vehicles. Although sometimes a pain in the ass to drive around town and find out who has the right lugnut for sale, I always done it myself for a lot less than $80 bucks. It will probably be 8-12 bucks for the lugnut, but I wouldnt pay somebody $80.
Although I have never broken one on my 4runner
Although I have never broken one on my 4runner
02-12-2010, 12:24 PM
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Ive broken plenty of lugnuts on many different vehicles. Although sometimes a pain in the ass to drive around town and find out who has the right lugnut for sale, I always done it myself for a lot less than $80 bucks. It will probably be 8-12 bucks for the lugnut, but I wouldnt pay somebody $80.
Although I have never broken one on my 4runner
Although I have never broken one on my 4runner
I kind of have a feeling they were trying to take advantage of me. I'm 19 and I don't know any better.
02-12-2010, 01:20 PM
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Yeah I had a tire shop tear a tire when they were trying to dismount it, and trying to get me to buy a new tire... I was like...WAIT...you guys RIPPED MY TIRE and I have to pay for a new one!? Some are a bunch of idiots..
Oh and I wouldn't have them do it. Go somewhere else or do it yourself... of course I believe you will need to press it (axle shaft) out of the outer bearings to put a new stud in...
Oh and I wouldn't have them do it. Go somewhere else or do it yourself... of course I believe you will need to press it (axle shaft) out of the outer bearings to put a new stud in...
02-12-2010, 01:22 PM
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they brake a lot and yeah you have to remove the axel but its easy just go buy the stud and nut at local auto part store jack up truck remove tire and brake drum remove 4 bolts that hold Axel in and hammer out stud insert new stud and move on also at our shop when they brake we do free labor but you pay for the part we cant help that someone over tightened your lug nut but we no that you cant either
sorry a bought sh**ty punctuation
sorry a bought sh**ty punctuation
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02-12-2010, 01:55 PM
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Well it's not the nut the broke. It's the stud that you bolt it to.
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Your right, I should have specified the Stud, not just the nut.
Ibeantaco is right, take off the brake drum and pound out the Stud.
Well it's not the nut the broke. It's the stud that you bolt it to.
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Your right, I should have specified the Stud, not just the nut.
Ibeantaco is right, take off the brake drum and pound out the Stud.
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03-01-2010, 08:32 AM
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How do you get around the backing plate to hammer in new lug studs? I am going to try to use a shop press, if that doesn't fit between the drive flange and backing plate, a ball joint press, if that doesn't work, I'll pay the 120 for new bearings and have them pressed off and on.
03-01-2010, 09:29 AM
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i have a better idea--just go to the junkyard and pick up the whole axle assembly--unbolt whatever is good on yours (Brake shoes, ....etc)....take out yours--put in new axle--
The most time spent will be on finding a junkyard that has what you need--but it is a very common axle assembly
Figure it would cost you $150 max
The most time spent will be on finding a junkyard that has what you need--but it is a very common axle assembly
Figure it would cost you $150 max
03-01-2010, 09:54 AM
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Can't you... take off the wheel, take off the drum and pound out the broken stud. Then slide the stud in from behind and tighten a lug nut on and suck it back in ???
03-01-2010, 01:28 PM
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I wouldn't get a used axle assm for 150 when i can get new for 120 lol. I have stripped 8.8 grade nuts with washers and lube.... only pulls them half way, they are the correct studs, so i am going to take the brake hardware off, get a couple blocks of wood for either side of backing plate, remove circlip, and tap on end of shaft, then i will pound in new studs, and use my buddies press.... If all goes according to plan....
03-01-2010, 02:21 PM
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To everyone who's posted here saying they've done this before and didn't have to remove the rear axle ...
Here's a pic of approximately what his rear lugs will look like with the wheel and drum hat removed ...
Please tell me how you press the new lug into place without removing the axle.
With that said, removing the rear axle shaft isn't difficult. Maybe a 10 minute job with most of the time spent disconnecting the e-brake cable. LOL
Here's what the back side looks like once you've removed the axle shaft ...
You can remove the wheel bearing with a press and a SST (special service tool) or you can use the shadetree mechanic method shown below. (I do not recommend the shadetree mechanic method).
Here's a pic of approximately what his rear lugs will look like with the wheel and drum hat removed ...
Please tell me how you press the new lug into place without removing the axle.
With that said, removing the rear axle shaft isn't difficult. Maybe a 10 minute job with most of the time spent disconnecting the e-brake cable. LOL
Here's what the back side looks like once you've removed the axle shaft ...
You can remove the wheel bearing with a press and a SST (special service tool) or you can use the shadetree mechanic method shown below. (I do not recommend the shadetree mechanic method).
03-01-2010, 02:27 PM
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