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Bilstien Choice???

Old Nov 4, 2004 | 03:43 PM
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Bilstien Choice???

Bilstien Choice???
Just curious why is the 2wd trd tundra bilstiens the choice of use? My needs arent for for wheeling like most, what I need is to support alot of front end weight. From what I have found there seems to be no real difference in trd coils but there is a difference in the strut, price is a differnce so what my question is could I substitute oem trd 4x4 tundra struts with out fitment problems...the 4x2 number I got off another post seems to be more expensive than the oem 4x4 trd any help thanks
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Old Nov 4, 2004 | 05:39 PM
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This is exactly why:

Originally Posted by Bamchem
1. OEM Toyota/Bilsteins - color yellow/blue , labeled with both the Toyota and Bilstein brand names - comes as part of the "TRD" or OFF ROAD option package. Toyota part # 4851009350 (front) & 4853109141 (rear). Toyota price about $150 new (set of 4), often about $125 on eBay (set of 4) YOU DO NOT WANT THESE.

2. TRD Bilsteins for 4x4's - color red/blue, labeled with both the Toyota and Bilstein brand names. TRD part number 00602-48500-100. Available from Toyota Dealers as a TRD Sport Part. These shocks are 40% stiffer on bump and about 25% stiffer on rebound than #1. about $285 (set of 4) YOU DO NOT WANT THESE.

3. TRD Bilsteins for 4x2's - color red/blue, labeled with both the Toyota and Bilstein brand names. TRD part number 00602-48500-101 (order 2). Available from Toyota Dealers as a TRD Sport Part. These shocks are slightly softer at low velocities, but stiffer at high velocities than #1. about $175 (set of 2) THESE ARE THE ONES YOU WANT.

I have verified that I have #3 4x2 Tundra TRD Red/Blue Bilsteins. They are softer than regular Bilsteins on low speed articulation and are stiffer than regular Bilsteins on high speed articulation. This allows for super soft and smooth on-road manners along with superb flex while crawling.
You can do any shock you want, I run the 4x4 Tundra Bilstein HD. It's all the way the ride.
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Old Nov 4, 2004 | 05:59 PM
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If you're looking to support a lot of front end weight you'll want beefier coils. Beefier shocks will help control the weight better dynamically, but won't do a thing for holding that weight up.
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Old Nov 4, 2004 | 10:36 PM
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thx for the feed back

......gapguy most of my info was gotton from that thread hence my question

as for not helping support the weight it is my main concern in the performance while driving with that weight (plows are heavy ) I am hoping that the 4x4 hd will stand up better or should I say longer
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Old Nov 5, 2004 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Chainlink
thx for the feed back

......gapguy most of my info was gotton from that thread hence my question

as for not helping support the weight it is my main concern in the performance while driving with that weight (plows are heavy ) I am hoping that the 4x4 hd will stand up better or should I say longer
The shocks won't change your ride height one bit unless they're too short..which they aren't. You aren't lifting the back, right? Just get the Tundra coils, extended studs, shock of your choice and spacer. Then try it first without the spacer.
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Old Nov 5, 2004 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by gapguy
The shocks won't change your ride height one bit unless they're too short..which they aren't. You aren't lifting the back, right? Just get the Tundra coils, extended studs, shock of your choice and spacer. Then try it first without the spacer.
I will only lift the back slightly if needed but I am waiting to do the front so I can measure to see what I need because regardless I will be adding a spring to the back a local spring shop will do it I haul quite a bit so a stiffer rear is ok ......Ive read some of the taco guys say it was a direct bolt in except they had to re use top plate , nothing about extended bolts or spacer.....

why cant this be easy like my 85 runner gotta luv leaf springs so easy
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Old Nov 5, 2004 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Chainlink
I will only lift the back slightly if needed but I am waiting to do the front so I can measure to see what I need because regardless I will be adding a spring to the back a local spring shop will do it I haul quite a bit so a stiffer rear is ok ......Ive read some of the taco guys say it was a direct bolt in except they had to re use top plate , nothing about extended bolts or spacer.....

why cant this be easy like my 85 runner gotta luv leaf springs so easy
From my understanding... you only need the longer studs if you're going to use the topout spacer. The topout spacer lifts about a half inch without changing ride quality.
If you're going to be changing out springs and shocks, you might as well put in the longer studs. That way, if the tundra coils don't give you enough lift, or if you need more lift in the future, all you have to do is throw in the spacer since the extended studs are already there.
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Old Nov 5, 2004 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by mtxride
From my understanding... you only need the longer studs if you're going to use the topout spacer. The topout spacer lifts about a half inch without changing ride quality.
If you're going to be changing out springs and shocks, you might as well put in the longer studs. That way, if the tundra coils don't give you enough lift, or if you need more lift in the future, all you have to do is throw in the spacer since the extended studs are already there.
ok now that I understand thanks.......ok I need things spelled out for me
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Old Nov 5, 2004 | 12:03 PM
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It also occured to me due to the fact I dont use my Taco for wheeling except to hunting camp could I use standard oem tundra struts? The coils will support the wheight while still getting decent ride quality. Like I said before just looking for advice in what set up would suit my needs...
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Old Nov 5, 2004 | 08:14 PM
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The OEM struts are of really crappy quality unless they're the Red/Blue TRD shocks. Look for a used set of struts if you want to save money. If you're willing to wait, I should have a source for a pair of 2WD TRD coils..just like the one's Andy runs...
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Old Nov 6, 2004 | 09:36 AM
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Tundras have coils and shocks not struts.....and you'll want a stiffer shock up front...if its too soft the plow will make it bouce up and down, a stiffer shock will slow that rate....but with the plow off its gonna be a little bit rougher ride...
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Old Nov 6, 2004 | 02:03 PM
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Ie: Bilstein HD.....
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