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Old Jan 22, 2003 | 08:44 PM
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Originally posted by Gadget
What a stupid thing to do. You sucked enough liquid into your engine to stop it???

It sounds like you hydraulically locked your engine and ruined it. There is likely some serious internal damage like a bent connecting rod.

Never, ever, pour a liquid into your engine.

Well lets hope you don’t need a new engine.

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Unfortunately I couldn't agree more


Sucks man, sorry.
Old Jan 23, 2003 | 02:53 AM
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You more than likely have a bent connecting rod. (its what connects he crankshaft to the piston). Its called Hydro-lock. Liquids dont compress. Gadget said it correctly about the size of the brake boosters vacuum line.

With a complete tear down, the connecting rod could be replaced. Replace the piston as well. But this is rather expensive, due to the labor and "other" things your bound to need.

Hopefully the dealership has some pity on ya.

Sorry. I think its bad news.
Old Jan 23, 2003 | 10:32 AM
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Well, I hope we have all learned a good lesson here. Actually a few: number one: never put anything in your engine that isn't normally in it for everyday operation. Two: You bought the stuff from a ford dealership, so never buy from Ford!! Sorry If I insult anyone who likes domestics, but I myself have seen much better reliability with import cars and trucks. Toyota makes some great vehicles, let's all be happy for that. Lesson #3 (most important) before attempting any work that strikes you as dangerous or harmful to your vehicle, ask for a second opinion. It takes very little time, won't hurt you one bit, and it may save you a lot of time, money, and effort.
the thing is, I did get another opinion. As a matter of a fact, I watched my friend do this to his truck! Same vac line, same stuff, and same amount. So, I dunno
Old Jan 23, 2003 | 11:21 AM
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Its probably a bit different pouring the stuff in a 302 or 351 because its bigger. Im sorry to hear your loss and hope we can get the beast back on its feet.
Old Jan 23, 2003 | 11:21 AM
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I'm not trying to sound mean or anything, but I agree with Gadget on this. Mainly because you didn't know what hose to pull. I mean you said your friend did it to his FORD truck, and you pulled the same hose on your TOYOTA truck. They're two completely different engines, by two different companies. I would of done a little more research as to what hose to use. I would be VERY reluctant to pour anything directly into my engine like that. I've started using the Techron stuff that you pour into your gas tank on the recommendation of several people on here, and I haven't had any problems.

Anyway I'm sorry to hear what happened, and hopefully you'll be able to get it fixed.

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Old Jan 23, 2003 | 03:40 PM
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In oly's defense, somebody has to be the first to try it. For example, somebody was the first to try the deckplate mod, intake silencer removal, amsoil filters, sea foam, bg44k, and install a potentiometer inline with the ECT. With the exception of the deckplate mod, all of these have been used successfully on other engines including domestics.

There was no way that oly could know that that stuff would ruin his engine. If it had worked correctly and gave him 1000 hp more, then everybody here would be calling him a genius. Most successes are preceded by hundreds of mistakes. Experimentation is the key to scientific evolution.

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Old Jan 23, 2003 | 07:52 PM
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Well, I found out exactly what I did. I snapped the connecting rod to the middle drivers side piston. :cry: Well, I guess the saying is, live and learn. Also, about the vaccume line, I KNOW that it was the same line that was used, BUT I was wrong in assuming that it would do the same thing as my friends truck. I'm getting a loan from my parents, so I'm looking at AC delco or ATK engines. Is there anyone that has dealed with either of these companies? If so, what do you think. These two are the most reputable of all that I've heard. Thanks for everyone's help and sorry if I sounded pissed of at anyone.
Old Jan 24, 2003 | 07:39 AM
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if you want to go brand new, i'd go with ATK. i hear they make good engines. why not call around to some local junkyards and see if you can find an engine in good shape? this also might be a good time to consider swapping in a 3.4 instead.
Old Jan 24, 2003 | 07:52 AM
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Sorry about your truck. That really stinks. I'm kinda in the same boat as you are. It's hard to do some major repairs when no $$ is available. Good thing you can get a loan from your parents.

Originally posted by Churnd
this also might be a good time to consider swapping in a 3.4 instead.
I was thinking the same thing. Would be awesome! :eek:

Have fun all.
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Old Jan 24, 2003 | 08:06 AM
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ATK is also what I suggest, oly don't feel bad either and shame on all of you badgering poor old Oly. We live and learn like someone just said and really the only way that we learn and it sticks is through the school of hard knocks.
Old Jan 24, 2003 | 08:17 AM
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Try FITZ right down the road from you.

You shouldnt have a problem finding a used engine in good condition.
Old Jan 25, 2003 | 06:41 AM
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I got an engine comming soon, but in the meanwhile, should I get headers right now? if the engine is pulled then it would be very easy to put them on. Another thing is, are they worth it? what kind of power and milage gain do you get? Also, my last question, what parts/sensors should I replace when I start to put in the new longblock?
Old Jan 25, 2003 | 07:13 AM
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You could always drop an old 5.0 in there
Old Jan 25, 2003 | 08:36 AM
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Also, my last question, what parts/sensors should I replace when I start to put in the new longblock?
I'm no pro at this kind of stuff, but I have a few ideas. Most of these depend on if your "new" engine has a lot of miles. Here's a few things I though of:

1) Thermostate (not really that hard to get too--you could do that easily with the engine in, but while the radiator is drained you might as well do it now.)

2) O2 sensor (not the one that's near the cat, but I think there is another one up by the headers. I could be wrong on that though.)

3) Timing belt (if it has a lot of miles on the engine, and hasn't been replaced within the last 80,000 miles or so)

Well, that's about all I could think of. Again, I'm no pro at this kind of stuff, so I could be totally off on some of this stuff. Just a few ideas for you to look into farther.
Old Jan 25, 2003 | 03:46 PM
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Originally posted by DH6twinotter


1) Thermostate (not really that hard to get too--you could do that easily with the engine in, but while the radiator is drained you might as well do it now.)

2) O2 sensor (not the one that's near the cat, but I think there is another one up by the headers. I could be wrong on that though.)

3) Timing belt (if it has a lot of miles on the engine, and hasn't been replaced within the last 80,000 miles or so)

Funny thing is, all of those things have been replaced in the last 7,000 miles or so, but thanks for the advice
Old Jan 25, 2003 | 05:25 PM
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So, are there any other things that I should replace or do to the engine while I'm putting it in? I would think that headers would be good, but who has them and what do you think?
Old Jan 25, 2003 | 07:20 PM
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I have installed several ATK engines. And having myself been trained with Toyota, and grew up working on them, my impression of ATK was poor. But thats comparing toyota's new parts to it.

Id be sure to be real careful and read all the instructions that come with the engine. Do everything they suggest. If possible, I would also check/adjust the valve clearance. Also be sure the timing belt is intsalled properly. I wouldnt take the whole engine apart, but i would be sure to dbl check what I could before putting it in.
Old Jan 25, 2003 | 07:27 PM
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Jay, thanks for the advice. I wasn't planing on installing pistons, cams, etc. I was just talking about new ingition, headers, or other bolt on type stuff. I'm not so worried about the ingition because that's real easy to install, but I want to find out if the headers are worth it. With the engine out it will make putting the headers in very easy.
Old Jan 25, 2003 | 11:21 PM
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My friend (asst service manager) at my local Toyota dealership has had some issues with ATK motors, I think mostly warranty stuff, so be careful if you go with them.
Old Nov 24, 2006 | 11:43 AM
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On all this and the hydrolocking (or however it is spelled) are there some PVC hoses that lead to different places in the intake. If Oly poured into a hose that was more direct going into the cylinders that would have resulted in more actual liquid going into the cylinders and thus kydrolocking. And if he put it in a pipe that lead a differnt way and some how dispersed or mistified (nothing to do with actual mystery) the seafoam then it may not have hydrolocked. Also if oly poured into a PVC hose that lead to only one cylinder then that would have been bad, only one cylinder getting all the liquid...Not attacking your actions oly, just trying to asses your possible mistake(s) and learn from that...
And if it helps anyone else not bugger their enging, then we thank you...Hope you don't take any offence...



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