the M1 website needs to be updated... the multivehicle i dont think is what you should use.. to be sure, contact Mobil and find out.. but i am sure i am right.. the one you want is just the basic M1 atf.. it says on the back about DEXIII.... did you see any other synthetic atf's there?? also is that the only store around?? or you can ask them to order the regular M1 atf and buy the case or more. its up to you man... you can always go with valvoline maxlife atf or toyota's dexIII but you should change it more often esp since you live in the hills.. imo

 

I don't believe in synthetics that much over conventional oils. I believe in frequency of changing fluids and better filtration. Engine oil needs to be changed due to the cumbustion process, not because conventional oil is worse than synthetic at lubrication. Contamination of the oil is the problem. Automatic transmissions are not exposed to this process so I have no reason to beleive that synthetic trans fluid will benefit me any more than conventional. If you change your fluids at the correct intervals, conventional lubricants work fine. If you extend your intervals, then synthetics are better. But ONLY if you extend the change intervals.

I ran my 99 Cobra with M1 for 10,000 miles and a filter swap between changes. Oil was fine, mainly due to changing the oil filter at 5,000 miles.

 

Are you referring to my post about the 19 quarts at $55? That was Toyota Dex III that I got for the dealer and I usually change my tranny fluid every 25-30K

 

Well I can't find the regular Mobil 1 ATF anywhere in town. O'reillys, Advanced Auto, Wally World, nowhere....

So I guess I'm going to go with Amsoil since I can get a case of that stuff from a dealer I found in Old Fort, NC. He's selling it for about $9 a quart so it better be good stuff!!

I need the Universal ATF that they make correct?

Also...a case is 12 quarts. Will that be enough to do an entire drain and refill or do I need more than that?

Thanks!

 

Here are some links to read.I personally use T-IV in both trans and power steering.There are a bunch of alternatives though.

http://forum.ih8mud.com/100-series-c...-t-iv-atf.html

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums...067477&fpart=1

http://home.hiwaay.net/~bzwilson/pri...html#TRANSAXLE

Those Prius folk are kinda wierd.But they test stuff like NASA,LOL.

 

your powersteering requires dexronIII not TIV... as for Quatro's truck both spec DEXIII not TIV.. i am sure he could use TIV but its not what the factory had in mind at that time.. so quatro do NOT use TIV

 

Yeah....I'll only use DexIII compatible in my Yota.

That M1 ATF doesn't say anything about being DexIII compatible either.

 

you are talking about the multivehicle and no it doesnt say.. again you can verify this by contacting mobil.. do you have any mom and pop auto parts stores?? if so, most carry amsoil and the basic dexIII M1

 

Just got off the phone with Mobil 1 support.

They said that it isn't the same product but that it is still Dex III compatible. It has just been updated to also be Mercon compatible. I'm a little nervous about using this stuff.

 

I'm having a hard time finding a decent syn atf around here too...i came across this tho....think it will work?

 

it wont hurt your tranny quattro but like you thats a lot of $$ to cast any kind of doubt so i would move on... you can use amsoil and 9$ a quart is about right. i would ask them to cut you a deal if you were to buy 16qts.. if not you can either get the amsoil or move on to something else.. i would see if one of those autoparts stores will ORDER you a case or two of M1 atf thats the name

M1 ATF and make sure to tell them NOT the multivehicle and see what they say.. worst comes to worst use valvoline maxlife. its pretty decent stuff and plus its a BLEND (syn blended with dino) i think the % is 10-20% synthetic to 80-90% dino but the best part is that it has a good additive package.. again its your choice

 

Mason, DEX6 is backwards compatable to DEX3. BUT and i mean BUT it was designed soley for GM vehicles not toyota.. now a lot of people say its fine BUT toyota has not verified that so on that note, dont use DEX6 for now.. bc if it were accepted by toyota i would be all over it bc that beats dex3 with its pants down and thumb in the mouth.. its pretty top notch stuff!!

when i mean verify i mean toyota and dex6 do not have a "license" together.. now here is the contradiction to this, i run Amsoil Universal ATF and it does Spec DEX3, T4, AND DEX6... sooooo thats a toss up........ try it and find out...

 

The Mobil 1 Synthetic ATF on their website does look the same as the stuff at Advanced Auto. It looks like it says Mercon V underneath all the black labelling and also multi-vehicle underneath the Synthetic ATF label.

That would be exactly what I found at Advanced Auto.

 

the multivehicle isnt the same as the basic M1.. the basic M1 was mainly designed for dexrons and some mercs where as the multivehicle was mainly designed for mercons.. so take it as you will.. you can use the multivehicle and be fine.. i am just picky lol.. i hate paying that much $$ when i have some slight doubts about it.. know what i mean?

 

I hear ya...the only reason why I want this stuff to work is that I'd be getting it from a shop that I can jog to, it's just around the corner. I'd like to get it there and the same stuff is at wally world for $5 a quart (just out of stock right now)

The amsoil will be fine but I've tried to get into contact with this guy for a few days and it seems like i'd have to wait around in order to get it for my truck in the future.

 

mkgarrison, what does toyota ws mean on that bottle?

 

Well, I've got 15 quarts of Amsoil Universal ATF coming my way tomorrow. That should be enough right??

Thanks for all the info! In the end, I wanted the best I guess.

Thanks!

 

T-IV works just fine in power steering.You can replace Dex III,with T-IV in anything that Toyota calls for DEX III.Even though the owner's manual dosen't state that,Or the fill cap,dipstick,ect.What kind of fluid is in power steering from the factory?It sure isn't DEX III......

 

yes it is a dexron in the powersteering it even says it on my damn cap duh... no powersteering unit toyota has ever made (to my knowledge) has asked for TIV as the fluid of choice.. where do you get this crap from?? the tranny on quatros truck came long before TIV was designed.. again he possibly could use TIV in the tranny but why when it wasnt designed for it?

 

yeah thats enough.. be prepared for some smooth shiftin' lol.. i really like that stuff.. for a long time i was never an amsoil fan until i bit the bullet and bought some myself for my tranny.. its pretty shear stable too.. if you do a full flush with it do drain and fills every 20-25k miles or earlier and you will never have to flush your tranny again.. thats on my list after new tires...