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Auto V6 with 35's, What else should be upgraded for mileage/reliability?

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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 05:54 PM
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I guess I will just really keep an eye out when I am looking to get one to make sure it has one, because the less I have to upgrade the happier my wallet will be hahaha.
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 06:06 PM
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Why not go with a 255/85/16?
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 06:15 PM
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I guess I will just really keep an eye out when I am looking to get one to make sure it has one, because the less I have to upgrade the happier my wallet will be hahaha.
Keep an eye on CarMax sometime they won't know what they have and price it as such. For instance my Runner was a carmax find though badged SR5 it came with all the upgrades and I paid for what a cloth seated non painted trim model would have cost. The switch is on the drivers side or left of the steering wheel RR diff or something. As far as tires the 255's are a increasingly popular size. I have been looking at the BFG KM2's in this size just waiting to pull the trigger.

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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 11:23 PM
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Just to argue, my track-prepped bugeye WRX used to hit 30mpg on the freeway if I could keep from driving like a crazy person, and the STi I own now will hit 25mpg for a tank with mellow freeway driving too. If you can stay out of the boost (and P&P everything with lots of good flow), the little Subaru motors can be very efficient. My brother's WRX wagon gets 28-30mpg on the freeway too, and it's practically stock. The real problem for the 2.0-liter WRXs are the tumble-generator valves upstream of the heads - they're there to improve emissions, but they become a real choke-point. Hog those out and mileage goes up with the flow.

33"s, huh? That's what I was planning for my '97 4Runner. 35-inch tires are cool but that's a lot.

The E-Locker switch is to the left of the steering column. They were optional on most of the gen-three 4Runners - I was trying to find one myself, but it got to be too much work and I had to overlook a few good 4Runners that were only missing that feature. It's just a button labelled "RR Locker", I think. The factory E-Locker is decent, but not great, until you override the MPH cutoff. If your rig doesn't have the E-Locker, there's a few other outfits making electronic lockers like Eaton, and you can always buck up and buy the ARB - those always work.

I have a friend with a leftover new FJ rear axle with the E-Locker that we're going to look at to swap instead of doing the ARB, and just control the electronics with a toggle. If it's too tricky, ARB it is.

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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 12:10 AM
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wassup man, like many other people don't know from other states, but we're in colorado. 4x4's are a dime a dozen. i don't think you'll have a hard time finding that limited with the locker. it works out pretty well too because limiteds are auto as well. ifyou wait for it and keep searching you'll find the truck you like.

now with 35's and an auto is a different question. i'm thinking 4.88's here with that auto. i don't think 5.29's are mandatory but they would be better if its going offroad, i'm just thinking 4.88's because you'll be having long road trips to the mountains and its still able to pull 35's in my opinion. no doubt about it though you'll need gearing especially mountain passes like eisenhower at 11k+ elevation. your engine is going to be begging you for a break guaranteed. 35's on an ifs is really pushing it imo.

many people on here do aux trans cooler as they had problems with theirs. just do a quick search and you'll be able to read about it.

i'd say just leave it rear locked and get working on you armor that you can fabricate. test it out wheelin and get a feel for it. i wouldn't consider a limited slip a locker. and manual hubs well a quick search will show that they can get pricey even if you do a junk yard swap. I saw manual hubs off a tacoma and the junkyard wanted 175 per assembly per side here in fort collins. + bearings + seals + maybe even shafts...etc get's pricey just to go with an auto locker. for 200-300 more you could possibly get an arb setup.

good luck and don't forget to post pics of the 4runner.
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 03:15 AM
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Just to argue, my track-prepped bugeye WRX used to hit 30mpg on the freeway if I could keep from driving like a crazy person, and the STi I own now will hit 25mpg for a tank with mellow freeway driving too. If you can stay out of the boost (and P&P everything with lots of good flow), the little Subaru motors can be very efficient. My brother's WRX wagon gets 28-30mpg on the freeway too, and it's practically stock. The real problem for the 2.0-liter WRXs are the tumble-generator valves upstream of the heads - they're there to improve emissions, but they become a real choke-point. Hog those out and mileage goes up with the flow.

33"s, huh? That's what I was planning for my '97 4Runner. 35-inch tires are cool but that's a lot.

The E-Locker switch is to the left of the steering column. They were optional on most of the gen-three 4Runners - I was trying to find one myself, but it got to be too much work and I had to overlook a few good 4Runners that were only missing that feature. It's just a button labelled "RR Locker", I think. The factory E-Locker is decent, but not great, until you override the miles per hour cutoff. If your rig doesn't have the E-Locker, there's a few other outfits making electronic lockers like Eaton, and you can always buck up and buy the ARB - those always work.

I have a friend with a leftover new FJ rear axle with the E-Locker that we're going to look at to swap instead of doing the ARB, and just control the electronics with a toggle. If it's too tricky, ARB it is.

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Thanks for the reply. Yeah my LGT is hard to keep out of boost, having a pretty tiny turbo stock, sti up pipe, and catless downpipe, that thing spools like no tomorrow and is at full boost so soon, seems like its always at full throttle bieng an auto, if it was a 6spd I would have alot more done than just that.

About the locker, I found a ton of runners I want to go look at so I will keep an eye out for it, but it won't be the end of the world if I don't find one with it, looks like the arb is a pretty good option too.
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted by etan
now with 35's and an auto is a different question. i'm thinking 4.88's here with that auto. i don't think 5.29's are mandatory but they would be better if its going offroad, i'm just thinking 4.88's because you'll be having long road trips to the mountains and its still able to pull 35's in my opinion. no doubt about it though you'll need gearing especially mountain passes like eisenhower at 11k+ elevation. your engine is going to be begging you for a break guaranteed.

I was just going to mention that. SC4Runner is in Cali, at sea level, Colorado is a mile higher so the air is a lot thinner and the engine won't have the same performance. I can notice a HUGE difference between Kansas and Colorado. I'd do a minimum of 4.88's for 35's

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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 07:26 AM
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You will have less power/mileage at altitude than at sea level. Mine was unlocked and I put in an ARB. It is a great locker. Instant on and off. If you find a good 4runner without a locker, get it and put in an ARB. I'm guessing by looking ar your siginature that shouldn't be a problem.

Now the big question that everyone is thinking but no one has the guts to ask. Is your avatar a picture of you? If you are that young, you sure have some nice vehicles.
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by etan
now with 35's and an auto is a different question. i'm thinking 4.88's here with that auto. i don't think 5.29's are mandatory but they would be better if its going offroad, i'm just thinking 4.88's because you'll be having long road trips to the mountains and its still able to pull 35's in my opinion. no doubt about it though you'll need gearing especially mountain passes like eisenhower at 11k+ elevation. your engine is going to be begging you for a break guaranteed. 35's on an ifs is really pushing it imo.
Beat me to it. The advice is good, but sometimes you have to remember that many of them are a sea level. Elevation makes a huge difference. Especially when you're wanting to run I-70. It's around a 6,000 ft elevation difference in an hour and a half from Denver.
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 08:43 AM
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Stick to a 3" ToyTec lift and maybe a 1" BL and run 33"ers.
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Gerdo
You will have less power/mileage at altitude than at sea level. Mine was unlocked and I put in an ARB. It is a great locker. Instant on and off. If you find a good 4runner without a locker, get it and put in an ARB. I'm guessing by looking ar your siginature that shouldn't be a problem.

Now the big question that everyone is thinking but no one has the guts to ask. Is your avatar a picture of you? If you are that young, you sure have some nice vehicles.
Thanks man, I will definatley put the vehicle condition as first priority and then throw in a locker if it doesn't come with it.

About the avatar lol, it is my girlfriend, I am 24 and so is she, I just thought it would be goofy to put a pic of my honda in there, and she laughed when I showed it to her haha.
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 09:45 AM
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it is my girlfriend,.
That's alright. We will still post replys.
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 09:50 AM
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That's alright. We will still post replys.

Hahaha, she doesn't mind it, she gave me the pics for my birthday, and she said she didn't mind if I showed people hahahah.

this one was pretty cool lol
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 10:05 AM
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Okay, so this is a chick thread now? Nothing against your woman, of course, but if I want soft-core porn I'll go to B. Hussein Obama's stimulus plan website. Can't figure out how else people would be buying his bullship...

Then again, I was trying to Bogart the thread with Subaru stuff. Alright, we all suck.

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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 02:12 PM
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Lol, sorry if I offended you, I just figured everyone likes to see some girl girl action, lol. Thanks for all of the input guys!
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 02:26 PM
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After measuring the distance between the rear door and the rear bumper, which is ~33". If, under compression, the axle isn't exactly centered then even a 33 will rub.

I don't think its possable to fit a 35 without lots of cutting. The front? That's a whole different case. The only way to see if they will fit is with the actual tire/wheel combo mounted and inflated. Then the combo is bolted on to the vehicle and the suspension cycled and the fronts turned lock to lock while cycling the suspension.
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 02:49 PM
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After measuring the distance between the rear door and the rear bumper, which is ~33". If, under compression, the axle isn't exactly centered then even a 33 will rub.

I don't think its possable to fit a 35 without lots of cutting. The front? That's a whole different case. The only way to see if they will fit is with the actual tire/wheel combo mounted and inflated. Then the combo is bolted on to the vehicle and the suspension cycled and the fronts turned lock to lock while cycling the suspension.
All my cutting was up front. The rear has not been touched even though it rubs a little bit at full stuff...not enough for me to worry about.
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 03:01 PM
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All my cutting was up front. The rear has not been touched even though it rubs a little bit at full stuff...not enough for me to worry about.
Man where the heck have you been? Yeah no rear cutting that I have ever heard of the front well of course.

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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 03:34 PM
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I'm surprised thay you didn't have to cut in back.
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 03:41 PM
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Man where the heck have you been? Yeah no rear cutting that I have ever heard of the front well of course.

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Hey Aaron. Literally out in the middle of nowhere. I've been spending the last couple of days catching up on my reading.

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I'm surprised thay you didn't have to cut in back.
Why? My lift was designed to allow the fitment of the 315s with a body lift and I knew going into it that there would be some cutting involved. The main reason we had to cut my front end was due to the low height I decided to set the front Billies at (2"). It still rubs a bit and may need a bit more trimming but I am very happy with how everything works together.

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