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Old Jul 4, 2003 | 10:54 PM
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Exclamation *attention Yotatech Members!!

rear diff blew up on interstate
drove it home in 4 hi
need some info..

- Does anyone know if the third
member from an 4 cyl toyota will
work? I know its not the same but
it might be a temp solution for me
till I can fix it.

- Arent all 6 cyl diff the same on the
second gens anyways? so I could
pull it from any junkyard.

- IF not how do I read the diff code?

- would it be harmful to my car if I
disconnected my driveshaft and
drove it in 4hi for a little while?

- Could I possibly take this opportunity
to regear my rear dif? would I have to make
the front match and what gears would be
advisable; I have 31/10.5/15? I wont
be putting any bigger tires on this truck.

I hope someone could answer my questions

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Old Jul 4, 2003 | 11:05 PM
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Re: *attention Yotatech Members!!

Originally posted by Bolverk
I think the next car I buy will be a ford, cant be any
crappier than this one.
Flame war me thinks you want to start.
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Old Jul 4, 2003 | 11:10 PM
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Re: *attention Yotatech Members!!

Originally posted by Bolverk
Anyways
on the interstate we noticed a loud screeching noise,
at first we were perplexed, until we heard a loud
cracking noise and then the car would no longer
move forward, everytime I pressed the accelerator
the guages would go crazy, revs stayed low while
spedo would jump to 110. Then it dawned on me that
the rear pinions teeth broke and that was why it
would not go, so after slowing down considerably I put
it in 4-hi and went on our merry way.
......and you kept driving?!?!?!
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Old Jul 4, 2003 | 11:14 PM
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Old Jul 4, 2003 | 11:25 PM
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Two words: YOTA YARD
(either to fix it or to sell for parts) It's there in Colorado.

I'd fix it.

I just got mine at a heap auction this last Nov. Fortunately, I had something else to drive so I took time fixing the front end (mostly body, bumper, grill damage).
I did however flush the engine and filled it with Mobile 1. From there the next step is to replace my diffs and transfer case w/ sinthetics also.
I'm in the same boat though, I don't know where my 94 has been but I'm trying to make the best of it. So, keep me posted on the things you confront. I'll tell you about my (94) problems.

Life gives you lemons, make lemonade.

What did you think you were getting for that price?

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Old Jul 4, 2003 | 11:34 PM
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I know hind sight is probably 20-20, but maybe a closer exam of the "new" rig would have revealed these issues and you could have steered clear of it (pun intended). With all these leaks, I didn't see where you did anything to fix the leaks, you just changed the fluids. So instead of dirty fluid leaking out, it was clean?? I'm confused.

Anyway, for your rear end problem, you need to check the gearing code in your door jamb and, to make it easy on yourself, get a whole third member from a salvage yard with a matching gear code. Getting the whole third means that the gear set up is already done properly. Get a new gasket for the third member from Toyota so you don't have a repeat performance of your differential disaster.

Sorry to hear of your misfortune. Even Toyota's will self destruct if the previous owners don't care for them.
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Old Jul 5, 2003 | 02:01 AM
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Dude are you serious?? I don't think I would have told anyone about this little escapade let alone tell everyone on the board about it. Please don't compare a Toyota to a Ford..... ever...
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Old Jul 5, 2003 | 04:46 AM
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Old Jul 5, 2003 | 04:50 AM
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Re: *attention Yotatech Members!!

Originally posted by Bolverk
I love toyotas, but Im extremly dissapointed after so
lovingly doing all the service I did on it yesterday.
Did you honestly think 1 day of sevice by you would undo what looks like 8-9 years of neglect? Sorry to hear about your problems, but it is the chance you take buying used.
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Old Jul 5, 2003 | 05:31 AM
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After hearing my little tale, what do you think?
did I make a worthy purchase?
I think I am an idiot for buying it,
Here's my opinion:

Yes. You neglected to do your research on the car and get it LOOKED at by someone knowledgable before purchasing! It sounds like you shouldn't have bought it in the first place because what you really did was purchase somebody's problem, somebody who didn't care for their toyota correctly and basically tore it up. In my opinion it is YOUR fault you have these problems with this toyota! You should have just nodded your head while looking at it and went back home and got out the classifieds again. Just my opinion and sorry to be so rash.
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Old Jul 5, 2003 | 05:45 AM
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I have a question for you sir, why do you type like that?

Yes I am a little aggrevated cuz you compared our wonderful toyota's to a ford. Your 4runner is not a piece of crap, it is only not working well because of how the previous owner maintained it. Do not blame it on the truck, blame it on the owner
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Old Jul 5, 2003 | 05:47 AM
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ok lemmy see...

-Dunno
-Dunno
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-4HI? I would say YES! (ecspecially because a "little while" usually ends up being more than five minutes.
-Sure you could regear, but if you're not going to be changing tire size, why? The availability to replace what you have is better if you aren't changing gears. Particularly b/c Yes, you will need to match them front/rear. And that will cost you even more.

O.K. people lets get him some answers for all of my "dunno"s.
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Old Jul 5, 2003 | 07:20 AM
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I acknowledged my mistake
you dont need to rub it in my
face.
I would like to thank you
for your comtempt


thank you.


now can somebody really
help me rather than insult me.
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Old Jul 5, 2003 | 09:58 AM
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Alright - we all agree this was a bad move. Let's help him fix 'er up.

Not sure about the 4cyl third. I don't think they are as strong as the V6 one.

There were a number of gearing options available for the 4Runner. Not all thirds are created equal. I'll post a pic of the door jamb sticker and show you what number to look at.

4Hi on pavement = bad idea. You don't want more to repair do you?

Your gearing needs to be the same front and rear.

By the way, you don't need to press enter after every line. The text will wrap and make it easier for everyone to read.
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Old Jul 5, 2003 | 10:39 AM
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Originally posted by Bolverk
- would it be harmful to my car if I disconnected my driveshaft and drove it in 4hi for a little while?
Yes, do not drive it at all until you get it fixed! If it has to move get a flatbed tow truck, not one that drags two wheels in the ground. You have a big problem in the rear end and it will still spin and cause more damage as you're moving whether or not you have a driveshaft connected.


Yes, a 4cyl diff will bolt right in. No, they're not all the same. There's many different ratios and two different versions of the carrier, as well as 4cyl vs 6cyl. If you regear the rear you have to do the front as well, but yes it's the perfect opportunity. But as was said previously, why? Just a note, you'll need to find a diff off a rig that has ABS to fix this properly, the ABS sensor is in the differential and from the sound of it yours is probably toast.


Also, you have to make absolutely sure you get all the chunks of metal out of the axle housing, otherwise you could do the same thing all over again.


BTW, if you have a camera do us a favor and post pics of the carnage when you get it disassembled.
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Old Jul 5, 2003 | 10:45 AM
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Here's a pic of the door jamb sticker.

See where is says "G144". That's the gearing code. The A340H by it is the transmission code.

MONTY IS HAVING PROBLEMS...

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Old Jul 5, 2003 | 10:46 AM
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Darn Monty Pics. It will work when they come back up. I uploaded then got the red "X" on Monty. They have issues currently.
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Old Jul 5, 2003 | 12:00 PM
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Re: *attention Yotatech Members!!

Originally posted by Bolverk
nbvhg
Am I missing something, how did all of you get anything from those 5 letters?
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Old Jul 5, 2003 | 12:02 PM
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he edited his posts.
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Old Jul 5, 2003 | 02:39 PM
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the code is G524 I went to this website off road for specific info on decoding my gearing my understanding of it is;

G=8.0"
52=3.722
4=4 pinion

Have I read this correctly? Im not quite sure. anyways I think that Im going to the yota yard on wednesday and pick up a third member. mebbe I could borrow my sis's camera to take some pics. what does it mean that my gearing is 3.772? would any other size be better? 4.10? 4.88? 5.##? could someone explain gear ratios and what these sizes do, and how they affect the vehicle.

Finally someone gave me some good info. I was not aware that the ABS sensor was in the diff, I was worried that I would have to buy the whole axle. I was looking at it just a little while ago, and I was thinking that taking off the whole axle and putting on another would be very difficult.

BTW the truck made it home, so I dont need to tow it anywhere, but I gotta find a way to work...
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