pattycakes77

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ok, this is not a serious question in that i'm contemplating this but i was just wondering if it would ever be an option? i've always seen people swapping in a 3.4 in the older 2nd gens, all the muscle car people swap out the 4 and 6 cylinders for V8s and big blocks, but i've never heard of anyone swapping out a bigger engine for something smaller. with gas prices the way they are and creeping higher every month (or day) i was just wondering if anyone has considered putting a 22r or something in their V6 or V8 vehicle? i know it would rob power considerably and i'm not sure the mileage gain would be that much with the weight of a 4WD SUV. the thought just pops in my head whenever i'm filling up at the pump or watching the gas gauge inch closer to "E" on my commute these days. and now that i'm heading back to school with about 1 1/2 hour drive time a day, i'm considering just buying a 4cyl car but wishing i could keep driving my beast.

nothing important, just a general question i came up with in fantasy land while daydreaming of driving my 4runner without emptying my wallet at the pump.

patrick

bigt

22re FAN... i would like to see this done

gilby4runner

I could see the 2.7 swap into a 3rd gen runner. Then again i get about 20 mpg with the 3.4. I couldnt imagine the 4cyl. doing much better due to the weight of the 4runner.

seafarinman

I have a 98 2RZ-FE 2.4 DOHC engine waiting to into my 94 3.0 truck. It will also have a 87 Toyota Turbo R151F tranny with a Marlin Crawler 2/3RZ bellhousing and Competition Clutch 1620 6 puck race clutch and dual cases with 4.7 gears in the rear case.

crolison

3rd gens do come in the 4cylinder flavor, and its quite nice

b.miller123

I think this would be interesting, as i would much rather have the 22-RE in my truck (good luck finding and extended cabs that haven't been beat to crap, or have 200k on them), but there is alot to go along with it,

and on top of the marginal increase in mpg, is the high cost of doing this, when it gets to where you are "spending" more to "save" more, you have to think that it would be a better investment to just buy a cheapo 4cyl corolla or something, especially if you don't plan on doing the work yourself, and then you aren't putting miles on your nicer truck/4runner,

once you start swapping engines, it throws you into the same catagory with all the guys who swap in 350's, mileage mean nothing, and potential buyers become scarce

But yes, I would love to see a kit to put a 2rz or 3rz, whatever the taco's have, into older trucks with the 3.0, i'd take a 22-RE, but I'd rather have the newer technology for the money

b.miller123

well, there you go!

I thought I had heard about his truck before, with the 3rz to a r151f

here's a link to marlin's site:
http://www.marlincrawler.com/htm/tra...on/3rzbell.htm

look at the picture with this quote below it:
"Pictured above is Marlin's R151F 5.15:1 Transmission with his 23-spline Triple Transfer case setup amounting in a 1,372:1 First Gear Crawl Ratio."

not that I'm into rock crawling, but that is crazy

alexe

you have to figure the cost of swapping verse how much your going to save at the pump. the 2.7 would be fairly easy, a 22re probably not so easy. assuming your not gonna do it yourself, lets say a motor is $500 and labor another $1500. how long will it take you to recover that at the pump?

i really want to swap my 3.4L for the 3.0L turbodiesel but with how much it would cost its not worth it for the 5 to 10 mpg i would gain. ill drive the 3.4 till it dies then swap. your better off trading in your truck for something of equal or lesser value that gets better fuel economy

crolison

ditto on when my 2.7 dies (which isnt going to be soon) i plan on swapping in a 3.0l turbodiesel

seafarinman

I really wanted a 3RZ but for the price that I paid for the complete 2RZ with 2WD tranny (that I am going to sell the bellhousing from so someone with a 2/3RZ can bolt up a W56 and get rid of the driverside t/case output and use a Toyota axle up front) complete wire harness, radiator, and exhaust makes the 8HP/20TQ difference a moot point. I know that I can make that up easily enough.

One_96TR4

Has anyone every actually done the 3.0L turbodiesel motor swap? I've never seen it done and have wondering about it sooo many times. Anybody actually see one done and running in a truck that it was put in?

pattycakes77

iTrader: (2)

yeah, i'm not actually contemplating doing a 22re swap into my 3rd gen, just curious if anyone else with crazy fabing skills and engine know how has ever done this or thought of it. i totally forgot about toyota offering a 4cyl in the early 3rd gens, perhaps when the 5vz kicks on mine i'll consider that as an easy drop in replacement. i'd love to have a turbo diesel like they have overseas but i'm not that auto savvy to take on a task like swapping one of those. i did see a report on the news a few weeks ago about buying a hybrid now and the experts said to wait because in a few years we could have vehicles equipped with emissions friendly tubo diesels like they have in europe and hybrids would not be so special anymore. we'll see about that though.

patrick

b.miller123

another thing about buying hybrids is that they are more expensive initially than normal cars, for instance my parents have a hybrid Camry, and I saw a report that did the math, and with driving 15k miles a year, and adjustments for rising gas prices, it will take 17 years for the "hybrid" part to actually pay off