4 cyl lot more reliable than 6 cyl?
#22
Originally Posted by ilion
Show me any Toyota engine that, if properly maintained, won't last 200,000+ miles.
Seriously.
Remember those ads from way back, where they had real people showing where their Toyotas hit 100, 200, and 300 thousand miles?
As with anything, the most important thing is maintenance.
Seriously.
Remember those ads from way back, where they had real people showing where their Toyotas hit 100, 200, and 300 thousand miles?
As with anything, the most important thing is maintenance.
#23
Current cars:
1992 Previa Van 200,000mi
1995 Camry 210,000mi
1986 4runner 160,000mi
2000 Camry 187,000mi(dads work car..only thing that went is o2 sensor)
Past Cars:
1976 Celica up near 200k
1978 Celica up near 180k
Late 80's Tercel AWD...170k
1990 Corolla All-Trac Wagon 180k
...and they all have the original clutch/tranny/engine
my buddy has a 88 Corolla w/140k, and another friend has a 1995 Camry w/250k
My mother just got a new Camry, and I just put my order in for a Scion tC(still keeping the 4runner though).
..nothin beats toyota quality
1992 Previa Van 200,000mi
1995 Camry 210,000mi
1986 4runner 160,000mi
2000 Camry 187,000mi(dads work car..only thing that went is o2 sensor)
Past Cars:
1976 Celica up near 200k
1978 Celica up near 180k
Late 80's Tercel AWD...170k
1990 Corolla All-Trac Wagon 180k
...and they all have the original clutch/tranny/engine
my buddy has a 88 Corolla w/140k, and another friend has a 1995 Camry w/250k
My mother just got a new Camry, and I just put my order in for a Scion tC(still keeping the 4runner though).
..nothin beats toyota quality
Last edited by jscarrozzo; Apr 2, 2004 at 09:51 AM.
#24
I have had one 22R and two 22RE's so far and they are pretty much bulletproof if you make sure you do the basic maintenance. We just got our first 3.4 V6 in 1999. I have had not one problem with it yet. So hopefully I can match the 212,000miles we put on our 1987 4Runner, with the 22RE engine.
#25
My brother had a 79 Toy Truck that he bought just to beat. Ram stuff, offroad, etc.
It had over 300k on it, but reverse was out of it.
The engine would have lasted another 50,000 anyway - it did smoke a little - but the frame didnt make it.
Of course ramping it like that WAS a bad idea - Made the frame go \/
Great to see though.
Ever see a truck ramp 6ft plus almost straight up
, then back down nose first?
The engine still ran ok when the tow truck took it away to the junkyard.
It had over 300k on it, but reverse was out of it.
The engine would have lasted another 50,000 anyway - it did smoke a little - but the frame didnt make it.
Of course ramping it like that WAS a bad idea - Made the frame go \/
Great to see though.
Ever see a truck ramp 6ft plus almost straight up
, then back down nose first?
The engine still ran ok when the tow truck took it away to the junkyard.
#26
Originally Posted by jscarrozzo
Current cars:
1992 Previa Van 200,000mi
1995 Camry 210,000mi
1986 4runner 160,000mi
2000 Camry 187,000mi(dads work car..only thing that went is o2 sensor)
Past Cars:
1976 Celica up near 200k
1978 Celica up near 180k
Late 80's Tercel AWD...170k
1990 Corolla All-Trac Wagon 180k
...and they all have the original clutch/tranny/engine
my buddy has a 88 Corolla w/140k, and another friend has a 1995 Camry w/250k
My mother just got a new Camry, and I just put my order in for a Scion tC(still keeping the 4runner though).
..nothin beats toyota quality
1992 Previa Van 200,000mi
1995 Camry 210,000mi
1986 4runner 160,000mi
2000 Camry 187,000mi(dads work car..only thing that went is o2 sensor)
Past Cars:
1976 Celica up near 200k
1978 Celica up near 180k
Late 80's Tercel AWD...170k
1990 Corolla All-Trac Wagon 180k
...and they all have the original clutch/tranny/engine
my buddy has a 88 Corolla w/140k, and another friend has a 1995 Camry w/250k
My mother just got a new Camry, and I just put my order in for a Scion tC(still keeping the 4runner though).
..nothin beats toyota quality
On Topic: When I think of reciprocating engine durability, I relate to aircraft piston engines. On those, time between overhaul is determined by specific power output per liter. For a given displacement, TBO varies by horsepower output at nominal cruise power, usually 75% of max power measured by tachometer and manifold pressure. A Continental 540 cu. in. 6 cylinder, 300 hp. N/A engine TBO is 2,000 hrs. T/SC that same engine to 400 hp. and TBO drops to 1,200 hrs. Their 4 cylinder 360 cu. in. N/A engine is also rated 2,000 hrs. TBO with the same specific power output as the 540 N/A, but also drops to 1,200 hrs TBO in a forced induction application.
Apply that analogy to car engines (if it's even possible to compare a constant speed engine to one), and it seems that whichever engine is lower stressed (lower specific power output) regardless of cylinders will last longer.
Last edited by BT17R; Apr 2, 2004 at 05:35 PM.
#27
i had a teacher back in high school with an '82 toyota pickup. he bought it new, and this thing had pretty much beat the snot out of it every day of its life. last i heard it had 600,000 miles on it with no rebuilds, the only thing that's ever been replaced is the clutch
oh, what a feeling!
oh, what a feeling!
#28
My uncle was in one of those ads, had a little red toyota pickup with a topper that he drove for 15 yrs +. Lots of trips from Idaho to Colorado. Had 300k + on it. When he finally sold it he decided the premium toyota charges for quality is too much, so he bought a Ranger. I think he's had 4 different vehicles in the last 10 years.
I really like my 22re, enough power for me, good mileage, and minimal needs. Bought it with 180k and it has 23x,xxx on it now, after 4 years. Still runs really strong, especially after the advice I've pulled from Yotatech. When I look at the newer ones for sale, it seems like they all have 100k plus. Toyota just makes them to last.
I really like my 22re, enough power for me, good mileage, and minimal needs. Bought it with 180k and it has 23x,xxx on it now, after 4 years. Still runs really strong, especially after the advice I've pulled from Yotatech. When I look at the newer ones for sale, it seems like they all have 100k plus. Toyota just makes them to last.
#29
I'm also thinking that a lot of the reason 4cyl are known for high mileage is that most of the 15yr old + ones are 4cyl. In ten years the v6's will all have 300k-400k, and the v8's will be at 200k.
#30
Originally Posted by tulsa_90SR5
I'm also thinking that a lot of the reason 4cyl are known for high mileage is that most of the 15yr old + ones are 4cyl. In ten years the v6's will all have 300k-400k, and the v8's will be at 200k.
yeah, god point there tulsa, we will have to see how they hold up in the next few years. but you never know the 22re's might keep on ticking til 400-500
#31
In 4runners pulling tires, etc... the 3.0's generally last longer. Larger engines don't work as hard. Part of the reason you see more problems here with the 3.0 is that this is not a hard wheeling section. Many trucks here are nice and are kept that way because they are worth it. Many of the 4 cylinder trucks (and 3.0's too) have gone to the more hard wheeling crowd where many are on 2nd and 3rd engines while the 3.0s are still original.
http://www.4x4wire.com/forums/showfl...5&o=14&fpart=1
I must caution anyone inquiring about the 3.0. I recommend taking note of those that actually own them. There are many 3.0 "theorists" out there with misconceptions.
Mine has 267,000 miles and runs like a top.
Frank.
http://www.4x4wire.com/forums/showfl...5&o=14&fpart=1
I must caution anyone inquiring about the 3.0. I recommend taking note of those that actually own them. There are many 3.0 "theorists" out there with misconceptions.
Mine has 267,000 miles and runs like a top.
Frank.
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