95.5-2004 Tacomas & 96-2002 4Runners 4th gen pickups and 3rd gen 4Runners

3.0 crossover pipe swap out!!!!

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Old May 2, 2004 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by blackrunner91
okay, here's what i'm thinking now:
from downpipe use 2.25" pipe back to a high-flow cat, then either a flowmaster or magna-flow or other, then a turndown immediately after muffler. sound okay?

Do you guys have emissions inspections in your state? In Maryland, we have to get our emissions tested every 2 years. The last time I had to get the truck checked, they coulnd't get the pipe up to my exhaust because I cut the pipe off shortly after the muffler. So anyway, I had to clamp an extension pipe to mine so the guys could hook the testing pipe up to mine.

Anyway... If you have a turndown immediately after the muffler, I don't see how they could get emissions testing equipment to the pipe...
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Old May 2, 2004 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Firefyter-Emt
Bull Poop!! The design is flawed. The RT bank entirely dumps head on with the exhaust gas leaving the LT bank. Then they must be forced down at a 75ish degree angle to the head pipe. There is not was the order they clyinders fire will have any bearing on this. at 1000rpm, it is pretty much a solid stream of exhaust gases. That manifoild design is a leading factor in the failure of the # 5 exhaust valve. Now if you or any one ever can show me flow charts to prove me wrong, I will eat my crossover! BTW, the pipe is the same diameter, the "bulge" is the heat shields. I also looked at doing this and I think in a way, this would be the answer (short of headders.) But I would drop the stock dump on the LT manifold, block it off with the old headpipe capped off and run both out where the crossover holes are. This would make them flow more eavenly I would think. Problem is, that in the long run.. it is a crap load of work where there are very good headders that are custom fit and flow better than the manifolds ever will. Plus they will dissapate the heat better.
Well, I've been told otherwise. I don't have any proof to back it up, except that if you ask Tim at DOA about it, he'll say something that'll agree with what I'm saying. Toyota engineers are smart guys, so I think they took a lot of things into consideration when designing the crossover... most importantly, cylinder firing order.

I think by the time the exhaust from the right manifold makes it over to the left, it's already gone all the way to the front of the left manifold, and when the next cylinder fires on the left side head, that exhaust is pushing the right side exhaust out. So, theoretically, the only flaw being not having a big enough downpipe to rid the manifold of all of both exhausts at the same time. I think that's why Tim recommended just upgrading to a bigger downpipe, exhaust pipes, and high flow cat and muffler.

I wish I had known before I bought my headers, because I would have tried that out first to see what the results would have been. I probably would have still gotten headers because I believe they do provide more power than Tim's setup, but I've just always been curious to exactly how much more power we're talking about.
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