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2001 SAS'd 4runner

Old Dec 11, 2006 | 11:05 AM
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I know of at least one 99 that had this problem.

I think it is all the signal disappearing at once, or the no signal front and steady signal rear.

I have old, non-fancy junk. I drive around in 2wd and seldom lock my hubs. I do not have ABS. I drive it like a rockcrawler because that is what it is. I think the time and money you will spend getting this to work would be awesome, but fruitless.

By the time you are swapping your DD, the hole is lubed, you are holding your ankles and it is only a matter of time.
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Flygtenstein
Big dramatic words?

There is not an ABS signal from the front wheels.

This causes the computer in a multi mode case to lock in 4wd.

This sucks?

Can you read that?

This is TRUTH, not e-pinion.
fyi, computers dont "freak out". they dont have emotions :pat:

big dramatic words
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by calrockx
interesting.

i wonder if there's a way to fool the computer into thinking those front abs sensors are there. or to swap all four sensors with something that would work.
or maybe use toyota abs sensors/axles from a two solid axle truck?
true, though those dont have abs, right?

Originally Posted by calrockx
if i were going to ever SAS my truck, i'd want all those systems to still be there. sure i'd likely be into more serious wheeling by that point, but why should i have to compromise? and yeah, the AWD function can still be handy on road i just used it yesterday on some snowy/icy roads.
agreed.
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Flygtenstein
I think the time and money you will spend getting this to work would be awesome, but fruitless.
i couldnt disagree more. but you are entitled to think what you want.

my hope is by the time im ready to sas, i will have it all worked out and this will not be my dd.
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 11:21 AM
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Talk to Demello, they found someone to do the work on Wyatt's 05 that they swapped, from what I heard the same person was going to be doing the work on the UA FJ.
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by lee
fyi, computers dont "freak out". they dont have emotions :pat:




ha, my computer freaks out already if i take a curve at what it thinks is too fast and i hardly drive it like a sports car
beep beep beep beep beep beep beep
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 11:38 AM
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oh ive gotten that real bad since i lifted... when i took the swaybars off, it got even worse

and yes i was being capt obvious on purpose
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by justinh
Talk to Demello, they found someone to do the work on Wyatt's 05 that they swapped, from what I heard the same person was going to be doing the work on the UA FJ.
good call. but did that 05 have abs?
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 11:45 AM
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i'll bet that the ABS and associated systems weren't retained on those trucks either.
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by bamachem
i'll bet that the ABS and associated systems weren't retained on those trucks either.
Correct, but they found someone that was able to work with the computers, etc. The problem with the newer ones is that when those signals were eliminated it forced the truck into a limp mode and wouldn't let it exceed 30mph or something like that.
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 11:59 AM
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ahhh, didn't realize that. still, what they did was more of a band-aid instead of a solution.
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 12:04 PM
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The computer would "stop working normally". I believe limp mode is an extension of the freak out.

The UA FJ had a dash like a Christmas tree.

In the Mini knuckle, I am not sure there would be space for such a ring. There is something like that in an 80.

If you have a mildly built IFS 3rd Gen with computer stuff, why not get a 2k or older and swap it? Then you would still have a light wheeler, driver and rock crawler.
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by bamachem
ahhh, didn't realize that. still, what they did was more of a band-aid instead of a solution.
True, but I am not sure how effective ABS would be on a truck with 40's. That being said Wyatt claims is stops really well with front and rear wilwood disc brakes.

I am really tempted to try some 4runner discs on the rear of my truck or a manual proportioning valve. With an empty bed (like mine is most of the time) I don't think the rears are doing anything.
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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 09:05 AM
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bump

anyone know the name of the place that sas'd it for the kid?
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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Flygtenstein

If you have a mildly built IFS 3rd Gen with computer stuff, why not get a 2k or older and swap it? Then you would still have a light wheeler, driver and rock crawler.
IF i were doing aSAS now, my answer would be...

i already have so much invested in my 02. i dont want to go through the hassle of a sell/buy. i like the features of the 02 over older 3rd gens. i want to "have my cake and eat it too"

good luck to the pioneers who work out this computer stuff on the 01/02 3rd gens. i know there's not a lot of demand there, but if these bugs are worked out, that'll open some doors for newer 3rd gen owners and other late models with all these systems.
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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 09:36 AM
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hey flyg, do you have 2 built trucks? you have a 2000 runner in your sig, but your avatar shows a 2nd gen?
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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 09:37 AM
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lol... his 95 has a 3.4L from a '00 in it.
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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 09:42 AM
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oh so that then qualifies it as a 2000? hahahaha, ok i get it.
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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 09:48 AM
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ABS could potentally be retaind by using 80 stuff. It is likely compatable, and could work.

To do this, you'd need to cut the axle, and swap tubes so you had DS drop. and figure out how to swap the SS and LS ends, so you retained proper caster angle, and steering geometry. That could suck pretty good.

However, if that did work, it might be worthwhile, as those who wanted to retain all that junk could.

There is talk of swapping to non ABS brakes, and all that. Why would that need to be done. Seems to me that a simple swap of a computer would enable the vehicle to run normally, and then swap dual non multimode cases in at the same time. (since you need new driveshafts anyway.)
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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 09:48 AM
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oh so that then qualifies it as a 2000? hahahaha, ok i get it.
Just out of curiosity, what is it registered as?
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