xxxtreme22r's 1987 Pickup Build-Up Thread
#422
This will be my last and final post, which will probably be deleted, but none the less, i have spoken. the above quote was made by a man who sits in front of his computer for 16 hours a day. I am the titled and insured owner of this truck. I financially own this truck, not just on paper. He has spent his rent money on those wonder tires, to impress his buds. He was told no, and with complete disregard, went and did it anyway. So when you see this beautiful truck cruisin down the road with some stupid, ice chippin broad driving it, please beep so I can wave.
#423
wow... someone is a little pissy...
why are you getting so upset again? is it because hes the one who maintains the vehicle and keeps it in good running order and SAFE to drive?
yea, thats prolly it...
why are you getting so upset again? is it because hes the one who maintains the vehicle and keeps it in good running order and SAFE to drive?
yea, thats prolly it...
#425
The fronts I am not too too worried about clearing as I don't mind hammering a little. But the bed is gonna take some work to clear the 33's and I don't want to cut the bed too high now for it to look odd later when the springs go in.
I might be over thinking it, but tying to think ahead about fitment issues.
Another issue I see with these is the fact the 10.5's stick out about an inch or a little more now in the rear, so the 12.5's I am gonna have to figure out some sort of "fender" for them.
Not sure of fenderwell clearance up front, but I know it's gonna be close and I don't know off hand what the backspacing is on these wheels, but I am pretty sure they are factory wagon wheels and not AR wagon wheels.
#426
ya know what, I just noticed these tires I got are the same ones swimmerboy2112 scored.
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f199...l#post51535335
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f199...l#post51535335
#427
Awwwe c'mon man you can't just ignore the last few posts! Not stirring the pot or trying to get you into more trouble but dude, you can't just not respond! Or is that your plan???????
Well regardless nice tires bet they'll look good when on the rig.
Well regardless nice tires bet they'll look good when on the rig.
#432
I might not be able to use those wagon wheels. At least not in the front. 
Backspacing on the wagons is 4.75 15 X 8
Backspacing on the 6 spoke OEM??? is 3.25. 15 X 7
I think the backspacing on the wagons is gonna put these 12.50's onto the control arm. Got to research more though. And maybe measure to see what my 10.5's really look like as far as clearance on the front.

Backspacing on the wagons is 4.75 15 X 8
Backspacing on the 6 spoke OEM??? is 3.25. 15 X 7
I think the backspacing on the wagons is gonna put these 12.50's onto the control arm. Got to research more though. And maybe measure to see what my 10.5's really look like as far as clearance on the front.
Originally Posted by 4crawler
http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/ForSale/...it.shtml#FAQ10
33x12.50 on 15x8/4.75" backspace wheels needs 1" body lift, and front torsion bar lift (1"-2") or 1.5" ball joint spacer and some sort of rear suspension lift (such as longer spring shackles or a coil spring spacer) to level the truck, plus some fender trimming. Here is a picture of this combination showing the minor front fender trimming needed to fit the tires. Conventional wisdom suggests a full 4" IFS lift for this wheel/tire combination, but using a combination of milder lift components will produce the same end result that will function as well if not better than the taller all-in-one lift kit and at less cost. And in case you think this won't work, take a look at this very combination in action in 4x4Wire's Hot Toys write-up on Don West's '94 pickup.
33x12.50 on 15x8/4.75" backspace wheels needs 1" body lift, and front torsion bar lift (1"-2") or 1.5" ball joint spacer and some sort of rear suspension lift (such as longer spring shackles or a coil spring spacer) to level the truck, plus some fender trimming. Here is a picture of this combination showing the minor front fender trimming needed to fit the tires. Conventional wisdom suggests a full 4" IFS lift for this wheel/tire combination, but using a combination of milder lift components will produce the same end result that will function as well if not better than the taller all-in-one lift kit and at less cost. And in case you think this won't work, take a look at this very combination in action in 4x4Wire's Hot Toys write-up on Don West's '94 pickup.
#434
these wagons might be OEM as well. but so are my other ones. Rough guestimate of wheel width as I have old tires on them. But pretty sure they are 7's and not 6's. I have an empty wagon here I measured and that's definately 15 x 8 4.75. I don't think OEM wagons were 8" wide though.
TIme for me to go troll through the IFS tire faq thread haha.
TIme for me to go troll through the IFS tire faq thread haha.
Last edited by xxxtreme22r; Feb 27, 2011 at 07:41 AM.
#435
ok that thread didn't help me much. Noone running 33 x 12.50 on an 86-88 ifs. Every reference is to an 89-95 or better. Not sure if I wanna try to run these 12.5's on a 7" rim either. Or they say they fit but no mention of backspacing. 4crawlers is referencing a 89-95 as well I believe. I know the wheel wells are different and only a few mentions of control arm issues.
Last edited by xxxtreme22r; Feb 27, 2011 at 08:08 AM.
#436
ok that thread didn't help me much. Noone running 33 x 12.50 on an 86-88 ifs. Every reference is to an 89-95 or better. Not sure if I wanna try to run these 12.5's on a 7" rim either. Or they say they fit but no mention of backspacing. 4crawlers is referencing a 89-95 as well I believe. I know the wheel wells are different and only a few mentions of control arm issues.
PS> NICE MEAT on those, buddy! Great buy! Sorry yer in the Bad-Dog House! hahaha. That's at least half of what they cost, new, no?
Last edited by ChefYota4x4; Feb 27, 2011 at 09:57 AM.
#437
yup about half the cost of new.
Just looked, I might have less than an inch clearance between the wagons and the upper control arm. At least according to a 1.1" block of wood I tested with. And it's gonna be close with the swaybar as well.
This is at full rest and full lock as well as straight. Did not test full stuff but that shouldn't matter with the UCA and SB.
Just looked, I might have less than an inch clearance between the wagons and the upper control arm. At least according to a 1.1" block of wood I tested with. And it's gonna be close with the swaybar as well.
This is at full rest and full lock as well as straight. Did not test full stuff but that shouldn't matter with the UCA and SB.
#438
funny thing is I was told earlier that a 13.5 tire would work on an 8" wheel. Thats a 5.5" difference same as a 12.5 tire on a 7" wheel. Only thing is I got to figure out exactly where the tire will sit with the 7's as the offset changes with wheel width. For example a 3.75 backspacing on an 7" wheel is actually further outside the wheel well then an 8" wheel with the same backspacing by (if my math correct) a 1/2 inch.
WHat throws me off is that 4crawler doesn't mention issues with the UCA or swaybar. with an 8" 4.75 wheel.
WHat throws me off is that 4crawler doesn't mention issues with the UCA or swaybar. with an 8" 4.75 wheel.
Last edited by xxxtreme22r; Feb 27, 2011 at 10:28 AM.
#440
hmmm
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f123...inside-177144/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKgOxm8CILM
Performance Tools 3-Piece Pry Bar Set $8.99 + $5-10 to balance x5 = 34-59
$10-15 a piece to mount & balance. = $50-75
Heck I might be mounting these dang thins myself.
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f123...inside-177144/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKgOxm8CILM
Performance Tools 3-Piece Pry Bar Set $8.99 + $5-10 to balance x5 = 34-59
$10-15 a piece to mount & balance. = $50-75
Heck I might be mounting these dang thins myself.




at home already...