x2. I'm dying to see some pics.

 

Embargo for now, sorry.

Pricing is TBD. With the USD in freefall and our deficit being funded with funny money, it's anyone's guess what will happen to JDM produced vehicles. Of course increases are spread throughout the lineup, but still...

 

And consider Toyota's situation with 4th Gen still selling (with incentives), inventory ample and still in production, why would they want to gin up excitement for the 5th Gen now? No worries about them selling them, new gens historically sell well for the first two years.

 

Any idea how long the embargo will continue? Since you have the production start dates & etc, has Toyota given you a timeframe as to when the public can see pics & specs?

 

I don't agree. I have a 4800lbs 4Runner with a 22RE (116hp). It keeps up with traffic fine. If I wanted a sports car, I would have bought a.... sports car!

The advantages to the 4cyl as I see it are:
mpg's
initial cost
lower labour costs for repairs
more room in the engine bay

 

Huh? The 4-cylinder 1990 4Runner has a curb weight of 3720 lbs.

http://www.edmunds.com/used/1990/toy...780/specs.html

 

he's got mods, bigger tires, driver weight, and fuel. Thats a pretty realistic number I would say. I agree with what he said though. Sure its slow, but you still get 20+ MPGs, and that was with a 112HP 4cylinder.

 

The weight of his driver and fuel is likely no different than the weight of me and my fuel. So remove it from the figure.

Bigger tires and protective gear does not add up to 1000 pounds.

 

you also listed the curb weight of a 2 door 4runner, which is indeed lighter... with driver and fuel and 4 doors and mods, he's got 1000 pounds...

 

Once again, we need to compare apples to apples, not apples to kumquats. The weight of the driver is not included in curb weight, and would be little different in his 4Runner to my 4Runner.

The weight of fuel is little different from his 4Runner to mine, and unless he has significant added tankage, he has less fuel than I do. My 4th Gen has a larger fuel tank, but the difference is immaterial -- 17.2 gallons versus 23 gallons, for a difference of a whopping 36 pounds.

As for the 2 door versus 4 door, you are correct that the 4 door is heavier. A whole 40 lbs heavier at 3760

http://www.edmunds.com/used/1990/toy...782/specs.html

It makes no sense to compare the weight of his truck with driver and full fuel, with the weight of my truck with no driver and no fuel.

His mods weigh 1000 pounds? I doubt it.

 

haha, you and I are arguing about different things here. All I am simply saying is him driving HIS vehicle in traffic down the road, with a FULL tank of gas and himself and his mods on the highway most likely weighs close to 4800...

I am NOT arguing that the curb weights of your two vehicles are similar or anything at all to that caliper. Thats all lol.

 

Back to the 5th gen.....

Much has been posted about the 5th gens engine offerings including the revised V6 and a 4cyl, but no one has really mentioned anything about whether or not it will ride on a new chassis? Some preliminary specs of height/length were mentioned but they were very close to the exisiting one so its tough to say for certain.

just very anxious to find out more tid bits I guess

 

I dunno about the chassis. The engines: 1GR-FE revised with dual VVT-i and tuned on premium fuel to put out a reputable 268 HP and 273 ft-lb. As for the 4 cylinder, we dunno what is the story with that yet. My guess is its the 2AR-FE (I think thats the code lol), the 2.7L from the Tacoma. Thats rated at about 180 HP I believe.

 

My understanding is the revised 1GR is rated for full output on regular grade.

I posted earlier about the modified frame. Supposedly the rear section in particular was modified for more stiffness (not sure which direction) while the rear suspension was tweaked to allow more flex.

Mind you this came from one of my TMS friends quoted earlier, heh.

 

I'm guessing that it will be similar in size to the 4th Gen, and that the chassis will be little changed. It will apparently still be two rows with an optional, pointless 3rd row.

It doesn't make sense to make it bigger, since then it would be encroaching on the Land Cruiser and Sequoia. If they made it smaller, then they couldn't have the pointless 3rd row.

I thought I read somewhere that the rear of the frame has been beefed up somewhat to improve stiffness. I'm anxious as well to see it.

 

Uh oh.... the first official image has been released...
http://pressroom.toyota.com/pr/tms/t....aspx?id=78356

 

Thanks Darren!

I'm liking what I see...

 

Yay! More useless plastic crap a la 4th gen....

 

Can't see a whole lot. I'm surprised there's no fog light, unless it is integrated into the headlamp cluster. It looks like it still has a solid rear axle, judging by the link visible near the left rear tire.

Roomier? I wonder if it is bigger in plan, or if they just increased the headroom (which was a bit lacking in the 4th Gen)?

ETA: And thanks for posting the pic!

 

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