wrangler duratrac
#121
Just picked up a set of these Duratracs yesterday, WOW what a difference! Feels like I put snowtires on, they are great on the packed snow/ice that make up residential streets where I live, night and day difference! Went with a slightly taller sidewall, and now my speedo is perfectly calibrated with my GPS, so that's a plus too!
#122
Just picked up a set of these Duratracs yesterday, WOW what a difference! Feels like I put snowtires on, they are great on the packed snow/ice that make up residential streets where I live, night and day difference! Went with a slightly taller sidewall, and now my speedo is perfectly calibrated with my GPS, so that's a plus too!
wich load rating?
i sure love ours (what little i've got to drive the truck) they drive great
#124
I just picked up a set of 265/75R16 Load E Dura Tracs for my 00 taco and so far I like them. I mounted them at work but haven't balanced them yet. Our truck shop doesn't have tire balancer. Even without being balanced, they ride fairly nice. As smooth as my old BFG AT load C and a bit quieter. They ride a tad bit stiffer, but not much at all.
Chris
Chris
#128
#130
I'll throw in an update:
I run mine as winters with studs but they've worn really lightly. Goodyear did replace one on warranty because after 4 trips back it wouldn't balance. I can tell the new one from the old 3, but only if I look carefully and it takes a bit. Thats after 15,000 miles!
They are great in the snow, deep snow, ice.
I run mine as winters with studs but they've worn really lightly. Goodyear did replace one on warranty because after 4 trips back it wouldn't balance. I can tell the new one from the old 3, but only if I look carefully and it takes a bit. Thats after 15,000 miles!
They are great in the snow, deep snow, ice.
#135
Okay, so after reading this thread and elsewhere on the nets, I took the plunge and got some Duratracs. Here's my thoughts after putting on 600 miles in the last two weeks. These tires seem to bridge the gap between an all terrain tire and a mud tire: They're slightly more aggressive looking than most AT's, but not as blocked looking as most mud tires. And their performance seems to reflect that.
I got the 265/75/16's, which is basically the size above stock.
First I'll talk about load range and PSI. There's a lot of talk in the reviews about the tires feeling soft,, mushy, and floaty. Especially with the Load Range C version. My 4Runner weighs in at 4500-5000 lbs depending on how it's loaded. I was on the fence between the Load Range C, or Load Range E version. The guy at Discount Tire recommended Range C based on my trucks' weight. But after reading reviews here and elsewhere, I went with the E.
The installers at Discount Tire put in 32 PSI. As soon as I left the parking lot I noticed that the tires were all over the road and felt very squishy, with both over steer and understeer. But for the sake of testing, I put on about 300 miles with them at that pressure. I have no idea where they got that number, perhaps based on the trucks' factor curb weight. But it was way too low. After about 300 miles, I increased the pressure to 42 PSI in the front, and 40 PSI in the back. What a difference! They performed much better with no signs of oversteer or understeer, or that floaty feeling. So as far as others' critiques about the tires feeling soft and mushy, they do at 32 PSI, but not at 42/40 PSI. And I'm very glad I didn't get load range C because I think that if the E felt mushy, the C would almost certainly also feel mushy.
Looks: They look awesome on my 4Runner. They look much more aggressive than the BFG AT's or other AT's I've seen on other trucks. Not quite as aggressive as a mud tire, but close. I'll post some pics up when I get a chance.
Performance:
Ride Quality: They're a little stiff at 40/42 PSI, but nothing unbearable. My suspension is super squishy and Cadillac-like, so the truck sucks up the big bumps with no problems. Little bumps in the road are noticeable. If you want a super soft and cushy ride, these tires may not be for you. At least not the E version.
In the snow: I got them siped because I do a lot of driving on compact snow and ice. With the siping they perform pretty well on compact snow and ice; about as well as any good AT tire. Braking and acceleration are decent. Lateral stability seems adequate. They do not perform as well as my Hancook 409 studless snow tires, but that's okay. The rubber on the Hancooks is pretty soft and I wouldn't want them on a year round tire. In deep snow the Duratracs are awesome! They blow away any AT tire I've ever used. As others have said, I feel like I can do in 2wd what I used to have to do in 4wd. I think the big blocked pattern really helps here.
On dry roads:
For an AT tire they do fine on dry roads. I discussed the issue of oversteer/understeer. With the proper PSI and load range it's a non-issue.
Wet Roads: I haven't had a chance to test them on wet roads, but I don't see how there would be any problem. There's plenty of tread to disperse water and plenty of siping to keep a grip.
Gravel/hard pack: No issues here. They seem to grip well during acceleration and braking. I haven't had any issues with retaining rocks in the tread.
Mud: I haven't had a chance to test them but I expect them to do well. I will report back.
Noise: They're about as loud as any other all terrain tire I've used. I've run BFG AT's, and Cooper AT's, and Les Schwab Wild Cat's and these seem about the same. They're much quieter than mud tires that I've experienced. There's a perceivable howl, greatest at 45-60 mph, but nothing unbearable.
The other critique I've read about these tires is that they don't wear well and don't last many miles. Time will tell. Since my 4Runner is my second vehicle, used only on weekends, I'm not too concerned about how many miles they'll last.
So in summery, I highly recommend these tires if you're looking for a cross-over between an aggressive mud tire and an AT tire. They seem to have the road manners of an AT tire, with some of the off road traction capability of a mud tire. I will report back as I put more miles on them.
I got the 265/75/16's, which is basically the size above stock.
First I'll talk about load range and PSI. There's a lot of talk in the reviews about the tires feeling soft,, mushy, and floaty. Especially with the Load Range C version. My 4Runner weighs in at 4500-5000 lbs depending on how it's loaded. I was on the fence between the Load Range C, or Load Range E version. The guy at Discount Tire recommended Range C based on my trucks' weight. But after reading reviews here and elsewhere, I went with the E.
The installers at Discount Tire put in 32 PSI. As soon as I left the parking lot I noticed that the tires were all over the road and felt very squishy, with both over steer and understeer. But for the sake of testing, I put on about 300 miles with them at that pressure. I have no idea where they got that number, perhaps based on the trucks' factor curb weight. But it was way too low. After about 300 miles, I increased the pressure to 42 PSI in the front, and 40 PSI in the back. What a difference! They performed much better with no signs of oversteer or understeer, or that floaty feeling. So as far as others' critiques about the tires feeling soft and mushy, they do at 32 PSI, but not at 42/40 PSI. And I'm very glad I didn't get load range C because I think that if the E felt mushy, the C would almost certainly also feel mushy.
Looks: They look awesome on my 4Runner. They look much more aggressive than the BFG AT's or other AT's I've seen on other trucks. Not quite as aggressive as a mud tire, but close. I'll post some pics up when I get a chance.
Performance:
Ride Quality: They're a little stiff at 40/42 PSI, but nothing unbearable. My suspension is super squishy and Cadillac-like, so the truck sucks up the big bumps with no problems. Little bumps in the road are noticeable. If you want a super soft and cushy ride, these tires may not be for you. At least not the E version.
In the snow: I got them siped because I do a lot of driving on compact snow and ice. With the siping they perform pretty well on compact snow and ice; about as well as any good AT tire. Braking and acceleration are decent. Lateral stability seems adequate. They do not perform as well as my Hancook 409 studless snow tires, but that's okay. The rubber on the Hancooks is pretty soft and I wouldn't want them on a year round tire. In deep snow the Duratracs are awesome! They blow away any AT tire I've ever used. As others have said, I feel like I can do in 2wd what I used to have to do in 4wd. I think the big blocked pattern really helps here.
On dry roads:
For an AT tire they do fine on dry roads. I discussed the issue of oversteer/understeer. With the proper PSI and load range it's a non-issue.
Wet Roads: I haven't had a chance to test them on wet roads, but I don't see how there would be any problem. There's plenty of tread to disperse water and plenty of siping to keep a grip.
Gravel/hard pack: No issues here. They seem to grip well during acceleration and braking. I haven't had any issues with retaining rocks in the tread.
Mud: I haven't had a chance to test them but I expect them to do well. I will report back.
Noise: They're about as loud as any other all terrain tire I've used. I've run BFG AT's, and Cooper AT's, and Les Schwab Wild Cat's and these seem about the same. They're much quieter than mud tires that I've experienced. There's a perceivable howl, greatest at 45-60 mph, but nothing unbearable.
The other critique I've read about these tires is that they don't wear well and don't last many miles. Time will tell. Since my 4Runner is my second vehicle, used only on weekends, I'm not too concerned about how many miles they'll last.
So in summery, I highly recommend these tires if you're looking for a cross-over between an aggressive mud tire and an AT tire. They seem to have the road manners of an AT tire, with some of the off road traction capability of a mud tire. I will report back as I put more miles on them.
#139
i've got over 40k on mine and they are slightly over half tread - this is 285/16/e-rated on a almost 6k lb 100-series. did go 10k without rotating and ended up cupping the tread a little, so I guess they do wear funky.
#140
I'm curious about the duratracs, but having tough time with their (canadian) price tag. Currently, I have 33x9.5r15 BFG A/Ts that will need to be replaced before the first snow. I can get a set of 33x10.5r15 BFG A/Ts on the truck and out the door for $950. A set of 31x10.5r15 duratracs are $1077 out the door. I have no issues with the BFGs, but the duratracs have sparked my interest. Smaller tire and $125 more - worth it?



) they have not shown THAT much wear...

