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#23
I run the Toyo's Open Country M/T and they are a great tire on and off road. Had them in the mud, snow, deep sand and never let me down.
http://www.toyo.com/docs/tires/tires...egory=off-road
Good luck with your decision
http://www.toyo.com/docs/tires/tires...egory=off-road
Good luck with your decision
#25
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From: maple ridge, British Columbia, Canada
Yes
my bad
Well, we get 1-5" here, but I find my truck is a little tough to handle in the snow. Braking is pretty bad... I try not to go out in traffic when it snows.. everyone here drives like an idiot when we get the white stuff.
Gonna have to disagree.... Mall terrains do not belong off road, no traction!
my bad Gonna have to disagree.... Mall terrains do not belong off road, no traction!
#26
1. Driver experience. Nobody who even learns to drive here gets much practice snow driving. Maybe 1 in 3 drivers on our roads learned to drive in warmer climates and don't have ANY experience driving on snow, so they try to drive like normal and wrap themselves around lamp posts.
2. A second set of tires is expensive when the driver assumes they will need them only in snow (10 days a year maybe). Wrong. I went up a ski hill no less last winter after a storm. Everyone a serious 4wd (4Runner, Pathfinder, Wrangler etc) was stuck. We were systematically pulling people out of the snow. 3 of the 20 cars we got out that night had snow tires on (not that it mattered for extracting themselves from 2' of snow). Lots of crashes once on the plowed, but slippery road down.
Jay: Why not sipe the tires if they suck in rain. Sipe the center blocks. http://www.sipers.com/sipers/SipingArticle-Press.pdf
#27
I run 33x12.5 treadwrights, and I love them. For the pirce you can't go wrong. I have the d-muds. On-road they hum, so what.lol I kinda like it anyway!
Off-road they have pulled me through some stuff that I would normaly have a hard time with. We went out last night after work and pounded some new trails, almost got stuck.But when the water is up over you wheel well........ that's deep! Thank god for diff breather's and some other small parts!!!!
Off-road they have pulled me through some stuff that I would normaly have a hard time with. We went out last night after work and pounded some new trails, almost got stuck.But when the water is up over you wheel well........ that's deep! Thank god for diff breather's and some other small parts!!!!
#28
As a former employee of a Firestone/Bridgestone service center I have alot of first hand experience with the Destination M/Ts. When they first came out replacing the Firehawk RMTs they were all the rage. Now I lived and worked in northern PA at the time where there was alot of Oil lease roads. We sold alot of these tires to to companies who had to frequent these roads with a mostly stock pick up. After a few months of talking to the guys who had to slog thru the mud on a daily basis, they only had good things to say about then offroad. And yes the wore like iron, but their biggest complaint was the rode like iron too. Not something they would choose to put on their personal vehicial because of the rough ride and the crappy snow traction.
At that time I was running Bridgestone Dueler M/Ts. I got 50,000 miles of comfortable ride with great traction in every kind of terrain and weather conition I asked it to go thru. I also did this mileage over a period of 4 years while first having them a 93 Yota p/u on stock rims, I then sold the p/u and put the stock tirres back on it transfering only my 31 inch Duelers over to the 87 4Runner on a 10 inch wide wheel where they finished their days with a completely smooth wear pattern.
When it came time to replace these tires the Duelers were the only tire i wanted. But they had been discontinued. So i started searching for a suitable replacement. After about 2 months of reading reviews talkin with other wheelers comparing tread designs and process of elimination I decided the BFG M/Ts were best suited for my needs. Although I still had reservations when i put them on I didnt have a choice.
I am now on my 2nd full year with these tires and i can honestly say I am happy with my decision. I have never had any issues with traction anywhere. In the winter I routinley have to climb a hill on the way to work and 90% of the time i beat the plows to it. 4 HI with the snow sometimes approaching 2 to 3 feet deep plowin it with my front bumper I make up and back down the otherside with no issues, ever. On my occasional trips into the mud for a little blasting fun I have yet to find a time when they havent provided me with more than adequate traction. They also make short work of the camping/hunting trails I frequent. And these trails I hit at all times of the year and havent had a weather condition when I have chosen to go slow me down yet.
As for the rest of the tires I cant make an objective opinion other than I reviewed most of these tires when i was making my decision and none of them met my requirements for one reason or another.
Another advantage with goin with the BFG M/T kms is they are phasing them out with the advent of the km2s. So you are usually able to pick them up pretty cheap if you look in the right places. Somtimes you might have to look 2 or 3 different places. Like when we phased out the RMTs. When we got down to out last 2 we sold em cheap just to get rid of them. And the customer went to another shop and bought their last 2 and ended up with a full set of 4 at a little over half price.
At that time I was running Bridgestone Dueler M/Ts. I got 50,000 miles of comfortable ride with great traction in every kind of terrain and weather conition I asked it to go thru. I also did this mileage over a period of 4 years while first having them a 93 Yota p/u on stock rims, I then sold the p/u and put the stock tirres back on it transfering only my 31 inch Duelers over to the 87 4Runner on a 10 inch wide wheel where they finished their days with a completely smooth wear pattern.
When it came time to replace these tires the Duelers were the only tire i wanted. But they had been discontinued. So i started searching for a suitable replacement. After about 2 months of reading reviews talkin with other wheelers comparing tread designs and process of elimination I decided the BFG M/Ts were best suited for my needs. Although I still had reservations when i put them on I didnt have a choice.
I am now on my 2nd full year with these tires and i can honestly say I am happy with my decision. I have never had any issues with traction anywhere. In the winter I routinley have to climb a hill on the way to work and 90% of the time i beat the plows to it. 4 HI with the snow sometimes approaching 2 to 3 feet deep plowin it with my front bumper I make up and back down the otherside with no issues, ever. On my occasional trips into the mud for a little blasting fun I have yet to find a time when they havent provided me with more than adequate traction. They also make short work of the camping/hunting trails I frequent. And these trails I hit at all times of the year and havent had a weather condition when I have chosen to go slow me down yet.
As for the rest of the tires I cant make an objective opinion other than I reviewed most of these tires when i was making my decision and none of them met my requirements for one reason or another.
Another advantage with goin with the BFG M/T kms is they are phasing them out with the advent of the km2s. So you are usually able to pick them up pretty cheap if you look in the right places. Somtimes you might have to look 2 or 3 different places. Like when we phased out the RMTs. When we got down to out last 2 we sold em cheap just to get rid of them. And the customer went to another shop and bought their last 2 and ended up with a full set of 4 at a little over half price.
Last edited by Duelertoyota4x4; Oct 13, 2008 at 07:57 AM.
#29
I just put a set of procomp xtreme mud terrains (33x12.5) on my truck and I have to say I love em, the grip is phenomenal is just about everything. They are even relatively quit on the road. I've only put a few thousand miles on them so far so I can't really comment on longevity, but overall I'm very happy with em.
#30
I too have been searching this same subject. I think I am going with the BFG KM2's. they carry them at sams club for around $700 installed with road hazard, if they last the 40K it will be worth it. I am opting for 33 x 10.50 since I still have IFS and just 1.5 BJ spacers. I hear these are very quiet, with tougher side walls and good in the rain. I am only spreading what I have read, but it has been pretty consistent. Besides 33 x 10.50's are not available in every make tire so the options are already limited. these seem the best. I have to regear first so it will be a while. But if these go on any kind of sale I may get them before I regear.
#31
I have been VERY happy with my Pro Comp Xtreme MTs. Had them over a year now and they are great on and offroad. Not too much noise on the pavement and handle pretty well in the rain. Offroad the traction is great. Great tire IMO!
#33
i had retreads on my chevy and within a month the tread separated and almost cost me my truck and maybe even my life when i was doing 75 on the free way the tire completely tore up my whole passanger side front and the rim dug into the asphalt and if i would have turned right at any time it i might have rolled...anyway $4500 later i put BFG at on and back on the road
#34
Ive ran super swamper thornbirds on my f-250 for awhile and they did great in the mud and on hard pack stuff put them into sand even when aired down and they suckeddddd plus i only got about 10k out of them..... Went to a set of Pro Comp All terrains talk about a smooth quiet ride rain was no problem with traction and awsome performance in sand and not even to bad in mud.... I picked up a set of BFG A/ts for my runner when i get it and well see how they do
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From: Flagstaffrica, Land of Trustafarians
I just got my 235-75r15 ( I know, a real manly tire) Treadwrights with the all-terrain pattern installed this evening. BFG cases, load range C, with a tread pattern similar to the 1990's GY Wrangler AT. They are bigger than my 235 75r15 spare, with a very square profile. The most weights any of them took was 3.75 oz, 1 took only .50 oz. Pics will be forthcoming!
They ride very nice, and the construction looks good. You can tell the tire has had some kind of work on it, but they are solid. Big O charged my 75 bucks for install & lifetime balance, and two of the tire techs got in an argument with each other over treadwrights, but both agreed they looked solid.
Anyways, i'll try my hardest to chip & cut these on the sharp as rocks everywhere around here & get back to you.
My only regrets so far are not getting the 31 mt-r clones...
They ride very nice, and the construction looks good. You can tell the tire has had some kind of work on it, but they are solid. Big O charged my 75 bucks for install & lifetime balance, and two of the tire techs got in an argument with each other over treadwrights, but both agreed they looked solid.
Anyways, i'll try my hardest to chip & cut these on the sharp as rocks everywhere around here & get back to you.
My only regrets so far are not getting the 31 mt-r clones...
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