I'm thinking about getting a set of these when my TSL Radials wear out.

I've heard from a guy I know that they were awesome tires. Cheap, and last forever.

But then I heard from someone else that he knew someone that had them and they have a funny wear pattern and don't last long at all.

I'm thinking the funny wear pattern depends on the condition of the truck... If the truck is out of alignment or the balljoints/bearings/etc. are worn out obviously they won't last as long.

Has anyone here had experience with them? Anything good to say? Anything bad to say?

Should I just got with the SX or the Thornbirds instead?

 

since most mud tires and made out of soft rubber typically they dont last very long on the road, but toyotas are light so there is some much less wieght on them too. My buddie had brand new swampers on his powerstroke and the lastedonly about 4000 miles

 

I have TSL Radials right now and have had them for about a year and a half, still got atleast another 4-6 months left on them. I drive my truck everyday, Mon-Fri about 60 miles round trip, and a little less on Sat. and Sun.

I know the LTBs are a bias ply tire, and I'm not worried about that, I'm just trying to find out if they'll last me atleast a year.

 

i have the 33x13.50 ltbs and like em. i have around 6000 miles on em now and begining to wear. my back tires have almost full tread and the fronts are about 75%. I believe if you rotate them like you should they will last a year or more. They are loud and get flat spots from time to time. in the mud they are amazing and throw chunks like theres no tomorrow for better than thornbirds. You should deff look into these man

 

if you are spending the money for a trail truck, go for it, but dont fool yourself into thinking the LTB's are street tires. i had some on an old truck once in 34/10.50 and turned them into toast after about 10k miles, but I had a welded rear end and wheeled the hell out of them as well as my daily driving.. if you are looking for a great tire off-road and on road then you my friend are looking for mickey thompson MTZ's. by far the best tire I have ever used off road without being over aggressive for the street, in fact their street manners are simply amazing as is their off road prowess..

 

ya the ltb's are a ok street tire at best. lol but you learn to get use to em in fact i love the loud hum that you can hear from almost a mile away. i think the noise and ride is well worth it seeing how they are simply one of the best tires in the mud ever made.

 

Just remember they ARE a bias ply MUD tire, and for at least the first 10-15 minutes of your commute they'll probably ride rough as hell and shake pretty bad until they get warmed up. Then they'll still be loud as hell (but what swamper isn't) but the ride will smooth out.

Stay away from the thornbirds. I have a couple 'extra' 33's I use for spares that I never intend to put on the street. I have yet to meet someone that has had them and actually liked them...

 

I owned the 31x11.50's for a year and a half. They outperform any tire i've owned offroad. That being said they wear funny and get flat spots like crazy. Loud as hell but what swamper isn't. for my money the next set of swampers i'll buy are the trxus mud terrain. They are quieter on road and perform well off. Most of my other off road buddies run them as well and swear by them.

 

ltb's are amazing offroad.
they wear fast on pavement, keep them rotated and dont over inflate them. i ran 18 psi on mine on the street and 6-8 offroad.
they are rough and loud and i personally wouldnt put them on a daily driver, but i would totally put them on a trail rig again.

 

Thanks for the replies, guys.. I'm almost 90% sure the LTB will be my next tire.... Now just to figure out what size I want to go with.

I'm not looking for a smooth riding street tire, if that's what I wanted I wouldn't have even considered a Swamper.

I know and understand Bias tires... not worried about it at all. I love the sound and feel of Swampers hummin' down the road.

I work in a shop, so balancing/rotating isn't a problem at all... I load forced my TSL Radials when I first got 'em, and used to balance and rotate them with every oil change for about the first 9 months, until my tie rods and hubs went bad and cupped the hell out of the front tires.

Yes, I load forced them, more of less just to see how they'd be, and surprisingly the load force wasn't bad at all, I think the highest one was 13lbs, with the rest being under 10lbs.

 

ya man, good luck trying to find a 33x13.50 ltb now. i tried buying a spare but i cant seem to find a place that sells them. i have been seeing tons of 31x11.50 and 34x10.50s though.

 

34/10.50's for the win.

 

Not here it ain't. Try goin through sugar sand on a 10.50 tire... ain't gonna be pretty. And a super aggressive 10.50 will do little more than dig a hole in that sugar sand FAST. Which is one of the reasons why I traded out my TSL 33x10.50's for a set of procomp muds...

 

ya i was always told for mud and sand go with a fat tire which is one reason i bought the 13.50's.

 

I've got 31x9.5s on my truck now and it does just fine... I chose a skinny tire because of the 22re's power. It's alot easier to spin and clean out a skinnier tire when you ain't got no power


If I can't find the 33x13.5s I think I'll go with the 33x12 Ground Hawgs

Anybody have any picture of either tire on their 'Yota?

 

on page 103 of the post your pic thread in the 86-95 truck forum i have some of mine. its the lifted green '92 ex cab. i think you will be happy with both tires nut how much lift you running???

 

I'm stock right now, but have bj spacers and shackles in the garage waiting to go on the truck. My truck will look goofy with skinny 31s and a 2 inch lift... so I'll wait til I get the bigger tires


EDIT: Just went and looked at your pics... looks good man, are you runnin' 10 wides (wheels)? How much lift is on your truck?


EDIT 2:... guess I should of read your sig.... hahaha oops!

 

ha thanks for the compliments man and ya you will love the ltbs or groundhawgs. so your puting bj spacers on? you gonna do some cutting?

 

I don't think I'll have to cut anything, I clear 31s right now with plenty of room. It honestly looks like I could fit 34s with no problem.

 

oh i hear ya man. well im clearing these ltbs pretty dang good with this lift. Im actually about to put either 35x12.50's or 35x13.50's when ever i get the money. lol