New Kumho Venture MTs for the '01
#25
sdstud, et al:
i wrote kent the other day and he replied via pm. i'll paraphrase, so as to not post his PM directly:
his mpg has gone down; some due to the increased tire size, but also becuase of the tire.
he estimates he lost about 10mpg *per tank* but figures that with the correction factor for the bigger tires, its nearly the same.
kent thinks that the tire siping on the inner tread blocks definitely helped improve mpg, road noise and extends the wear.
bob
i wrote kent the other day and he replied via pm. i'll paraphrase, so as to not post his PM directly:
his mpg has gone down; some due to the increased tire size, but also becuase of the tire.
he estimates he lost about 10mpg *per tank* but figures that with the correction factor for the bigger tires, its nearly the same.
kent thinks that the tire siping on the inner tread blocks definitely helped improve mpg, road noise and extends the wear.
bob
#27
these kumho's and the nittos are what i am looking at. right now, im leaning twds the kumho's based on price and review. also, ive never had mud tires. i can be the ultimate mall poseur in my 'hood 
bob

bob
#28
I apologize in advance for this rude interruption~
The tires look nice and I wheeled for a couple of years with a buddy who had them on his Ranger and they work well.
However, I'd just like to mention that they are American made alternatives that perform just as well, if not better at a nearly identical price.
The tires look nice and I wheeled for a couple of years with a buddy who had them on his Ranger and they work well.
However, I'd just like to mention that they are American made alternatives that perform just as well, if not better at a nearly identical price.
#29
Originally Posted by Dingman
I apologize in advance for this rude interuption~
The tires look nice and I wheeled for a couple of years with a buddy who had them on his Ranger and they work well.
However, I'd just like to mention that they are american made alternatives that perform just as well, if not better at a nearly identical price.
The tires look nice and I wheeled for a couple of years with a buddy who had them on his Ranger and they work well.
However, I'd just like to mention that they are american made alternatives that perform just as well, if not better at a nearly identical price.
dingman,
no, its cool to give opinions. probably better to start another thread though. i'd like to know which brand/tires you are talking about because these seem to be the best bang for the buck that i see right now.
bob
#33
Okay so I liked these so much I went to my favorite tire shop Discount Tires/American Tires and the guy didn't even know what I was talking about. He had to look them up on tirerack.com to see if they existed I guess. After that he called his supplier and then told me that the were not avalible on the west coast. So I guess I will have to call tire rack. Although he offered to have them shiped to san diego for $30 a tire, what guy! NOT!
#35
Originally Posted by Dingman
I'd just like to mention that they are American made alternatives that perform just as well, if not better at a nearly identical price.
And also, the "American made" comment seems really pointless on a forum dedicated to Japanese trucks.
#37
Thanks for the paraphrase, Bob. Here are my thoughts and experiences thus far:
1. Mileage - I used to get approx. 300-310 miles on a tank until the low fuel light would come on with my Goodyear RT/S. Since the change, I now get about 290 until the light comes on. This tire is slightly larger than the OEM and the error correction would mean that for every 300 miles on the odometer, I've actually travelled 310. That said, my mileage has probably only decreased by 10 miles on one tank of gas. I believe that increased drag may be a factor, but a small one.
2. Noise - While these tires do make considerably more noise than the RT/S's, they didn't seem as noticeable after only a couple of weeks. Also, the noise seems to be lessened at highway speeds from 50-75mph. I do believe that the siping that I had done to the inner treadblocks has something to do with this as well. (See photo)

3. Wear/Off-Road Performance - While I am not an avid off-roader by design, I am a fisherman and camper, and my adventures take me into some interesting back-country. In my use so far, they have been excellent. They seem to clean well, grip far better than any tire I've used before, and the tire treadblocks as well as sidewalls seem to be nearly indestructable. As for wear, they seem to be wearing evenly, but as with all M/T tires, keep them rotated, and they serve you much longer.
For those of you just joining the thread, these are the tires:




And one of my new "commuter car" a 2007 Yamaha V-Star 1100 Silverado:
1. Mileage - I used to get approx. 300-310 miles on a tank until the low fuel light would come on with my Goodyear RT/S. Since the change, I now get about 290 until the light comes on. This tire is slightly larger than the OEM and the error correction would mean that for every 300 miles on the odometer, I've actually travelled 310. That said, my mileage has probably only decreased by 10 miles on one tank of gas. I believe that increased drag may be a factor, but a small one.
2. Noise - While these tires do make considerably more noise than the RT/S's, they didn't seem as noticeable after only a couple of weeks. Also, the noise seems to be lessened at highway speeds from 50-75mph. I do believe that the siping that I had done to the inner treadblocks has something to do with this as well. (See photo)

3. Wear/Off-Road Performance - While I am not an avid off-roader by design, I am a fisherman and camper, and my adventures take me into some interesting back-country. In my use so far, they have been excellent. They seem to clean well, grip far better than any tire I've used before, and the tire treadblocks as well as sidewalls seem to be nearly indestructable. As for wear, they seem to be wearing evenly, but as with all M/T tires, keep them rotated, and they serve you much longer.
For those of you just joining the thread, these are the tires:




And one of my new "commuter car" a 2007 Yamaha V-Star 1100 Silverado:
Last edited by kvanderploeg; Aug 1, 2006 at 05:56 PM.
#38
I will, I'll make up a separate thread detailing the brands and prices and manufacturer.
I don't know about everyone else, but I'm an American above all other things. If you are insinuating that everyone on this board buys foreign products over American, then I guess I've got some enlightening coming to me. However, right now, I'm assuming that most people here are Americans and would prefer to support the country, given the chance and opportunity. If, after I point out the options and provide the necessary information, and they still choose the Kum-ho's over say, a Wild Country or a Cooper, then you won't hear any bitching from me.
As a side note, I've only posted here a couple times, and I've been called on it both times (well, a bit of an exaggeration, i've probably posted 5-6 times). Either I've pissed y'all off somehow, or... or... I don't know what.
I find it really surprising that some people are calling me out on my pointing out that there are American alternatives to KUm-ho's. Go figure. Where are the patriots when you need them?
Originally Posted by Mikestang
Uhhhhhh, which tire? Show me.
And also, the "American made" comment seems really pointless on a forum dedicated to Japanese trucks.
And also, the "American made" comment seems really pointless on a forum dedicated to Japanese trucks.
As a side note, I've only posted here a couple times, and I've been called on it both times (well, a bit of an exaggeration, i've probably posted 5-6 times). Either I've pissed y'all off somehow, or... or... I don't know what.
I find it really surprising that some people are calling me out on my pointing out that there are American alternatives to KUm-ho's. Go figure. Where are the patriots when you need them?
Last edited by Dingman; Aug 1, 2006 at 08:10 PM.
#40
Originally Posted by Dingman
I will, I'll make up a separate thread detailing the brands and prices and manufacturer.
I don't know about everyone else, but I'm an American above all other things. If you are insinuating that everyone on this board buys foreign products over American, then I guess I've got some enlightening coming to me. However, right now, I'm assuming that most people here are Americans and would prefer to support the country, given the chance and opportunity. If, after I point out the options and provide the necessary information, and they still choose the Kum-ho's over say, a Wild Country or a Cooper, then you won't here any bitching from me.
As a side note, I've only posted here a couple times, and I've been called on it both times (well, a bit of an exaggeration, i've probably posted 5-6 times). Either I've pissed y'all off somehow, or... or... I don't know what.
I find it really surprising that some people are calling me out on my pointing out that there are American alternatives to KUm-ho's. Go figure. Where are the patriots when you need them?
I don't know about everyone else, but I'm an American above all other things. If you are insinuating that everyone on this board buys foreign products over American, then I guess I've got some enlightening coming to me. However, right now, I'm assuming that most people here are Americans and would prefer to support the country, given the chance and opportunity. If, after I point out the options and provide the necessary information, and they still choose the Kum-ho's over say, a Wild Country or a Cooper, then you won't here any bitching from me.
As a side note, I've only posted here a couple times, and I've been called on it both times (well, a bit of an exaggeration, i've probably posted 5-6 times). Either I've pissed y'all off somehow, or... or... I don't know what.
I find it really surprising that some people are calling me out on my pointing out that there are American alternatives to KUm-ho's. Go figure. Where are the patriots when you need them?
i certainly didnt take it that way and i'm still interested in reading your recommedations in a new thread.
and on a personal note, when i choose what to buy, i am looking for the best bang for the buck---if it is made in the US, thats an added bonus. and as much as i want to support our country with my dollars, i wont subsidize poor design, quality and workmanship, hence my purchase of two 4runners and not a ford exploder
bob



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