Ford 4.6 2 valve speculation
#1
I'm starting this thread as a early speculation on possibly swapping a ford 4.6 into my 93 runner. Before I start getting the 350 302 is easier cheaper etc, I really dont care about that so much. I am thinking ford 4.6 2 valve, like those found in crown victorias, thunderbirds, mustangs, and some trucks and vans. This motor is rated between 200-220 horses depending in year, and 220-250 Ft. Lbs of torque. I have had some experience with these motors and have found them to be very reliable easily running 200K with little to no issues, fairly cheap to maintain, and seem to get decent gas mileage. So here is what I'm looking for...
Wiring Nightmares
Mount issues
Auto trans options I need this so the wife can drive it.
Adapters, does anyone make these?
Drive shafts.
Any other things you an think of.
Again Please don't flame me but I really dont want a Chevy vs Ford argument, and I know 3.4 yota motors are preferred, as well as a 4.3 chevy, my only hang up there is if I wanted a 4.3 I would have bought a blazer.
Any Input is appreciated... Thank you
Wiring Nightmares
Mount issues
Auto trans options I need this so the wife can drive it.
Adapters, does anyone make these?
Drive shafts.
Any other things you an think of.
Again Please don't flame me but I really dont want a Chevy vs Ford argument, and I know 3.4 yota motors are preferred, as well as a 4.3 chevy, my only hang up there is if I wanted a 4.3 I would have bought a blazer.
Any Input is appreciated... Thank you
#2
Issues I know you may run into...
The ford modular motor is quite wide. exhaust will be a problem with frame clearance.
the majority of mod. motors are obd2 1996+ years and have a fairly complex wiring setup, are picky to seeing all the sensors and if you have smog rules in your area it will be very tough to have it approved for smog. there are over 100 pins/wires to the ecu.
you can have the computer to run near what ever you want behind it trans wise. there are adaptors to mate the mod motor to virtually every transmission. chevy th350, th400, 700r4, powerglide. ford c4, c6, 4r70w, 4r100. all with different options to mate to a transfercase
any swap is feasable with time money and fab skills. will it be cost effective or easy? i highly doubt it.
The ford modular motor is quite wide. exhaust will be a problem with frame clearance.
the majority of mod. motors are obd2 1996+ years and have a fairly complex wiring setup, are picky to seeing all the sensors and if you have smog rules in your area it will be very tough to have it approved for smog. there are over 100 pins/wires to the ecu.
you can have the computer to run near what ever you want behind it trans wise. there are adaptors to mate the mod motor to virtually every transmission. chevy th350, th400, 700r4, powerglide. ford c4, c6, 4r70w, 4r100. all with different options to mate to a transfercase
any swap is feasable with time money and fab skills. will it be cost effective or easy? i highly doubt it.
#3
Thank you this is exactly the kind of input I was looking for I suppose the only real thing you can do is do it... I dont have smog issues here, and I hadnt thought about OBD2 has anyone ever tried to do this? What about using the factory ford harness and ecm and adapting it to the yota body. The fiero guys do this all the time.. Make a fiero think its a GTP grand Prix
#4
That is how you would have to do it, use the ford harness trace the wires and integrate to the toyota.
99% change you will need a body lift and have to move the motor up high enough to give enough rom to tuck the exhaust inside the frame rails. unless you do fender well exit headers. truck upper intake manifold will me most likely out of the question as they are very tall and will not clear the hood without a major scoop or cowl hood. If you do it try and locate a v8 late model explorer, they had the aluminum block. the mustang and vic would be iron blocks.
the ecu will need to be flashed (you will have to buy a tuner) by someone who does mod motor tunes, to bypass the PATS key system if your donor vehicle was equiped. as well as turn off the second set of 02 sensors and anything else you modify emmision wise.
best of luck. It will not be easy or cheap. but should make for lots of fun. imho I would go with a 5.0 for the same price you can put a mild built small block with aluminum heads swapped and done that makes more power. and be much easier to package in the toyota frame. use a 90-93 mustang as a donor vehicle with mass air fuel injection. it has better drivability but the speed density systems of earlier would work also.
99% change you will need a body lift and have to move the motor up high enough to give enough rom to tuck the exhaust inside the frame rails. unless you do fender well exit headers. truck upper intake manifold will me most likely out of the question as they are very tall and will not clear the hood without a major scoop or cowl hood. If you do it try and locate a v8 late model explorer, they had the aluminum block. the mustang and vic would be iron blocks.
the ecu will need to be flashed (you will have to buy a tuner) by someone who does mod motor tunes, to bypass the PATS key system if your donor vehicle was equiped. as well as turn off the second set of 02 sensors and anything else you modify emmision wise.
best of luck. It will not be easy or cheap. but should make for lots of fun. imho I would go with a 5.0 for the same price you can put a mild built small block with aluminum heads swapped and done that makes more power. and be much easier to package in the toyota frame. use a 90-93 mustang as a donor vehicle with mass air fuel injection. it has better drivability but the speed density systems of earlier would work also.
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