cummins diesel swap?
#101
Yeah the lack of the VP44 is pretty cool... check out cumminsforum.com you will get a TON of good info there... like 2 stroke oil in the gas to save the life of the VP44, espically with ULSD on the street...
Aint nothin like a Cummins...
Aint nothin like a Cummins...
#102
I have yet to really truely figure out the mileage on a good highway drive with mine and I do not have everything perfected yet on it. Still need to get the new air filter in it and put some new better oil in. Best I got so far with the wrong gears and old air, oil, and fuel filter was 29mpg. That was keeping it just under 60mph. Now I have 4.10 gears in it so the revs were dropped a bit but still will not have the larger tires for a while due to money and my old ones have lots of tread left on them so the revs are not as low as I want yet. But she goes really well. My dad can't touch me with his pretty much still new 3.0V6 5 speed 31'' tires and 4.56 gears. Its been taken care of its whole life really well and still is not over 100000 miles yet. And that is not with it in ECT power mode or with it to the floor yet. I should be doing better mileage wise once the revs are right and I have the proper oil and a good nice clean not black air filter in it. Once I intercool it she should really perform. I have been focusing more on getting the important things like 4wd working and skidplates built and on in the last while but tomorrow I should have the air filter box modded and have a filter in there. Maybe even some nice new oil.
#103
my buddy bought an old frito lay chip truck and pulled the cummins 4 cylinder, bolted it up to a GM tranny, he even found a kit on the internet to help with the mounts and junk..
ill get the details on it when i see him.
ill get the details on it when i see him.
#104
Ranger with a 4BT
http://www.dieselpowermag.com/featur.../photo_06.html
Land Cruiser with a 4BT
http://www.biodieselnow.com/forums/t/20358.aspx
FJ 4BT swap
http://www.4btswaps.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3352
another landcruiser and 4runner 4BT swap
http://www.expeditionportal.com/foru...ad.php?t=22676
http://www.dieselpowermag.com/featur.../photo_06.html
Land Cruiser with a 4BT
http://www.biodieselnow.com/forums/t/20358.aspx
FJ 4BT swap
http://www.4btswaps.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3352
another landcruiser and 4runner 4BT swap
http://www.expeditionportal.com/foru...ad.php?t=22676
Last edited by Swansen; Mar 4, 2009 at 06:59 AM.
#105
I'll take lots of pictures and say what all was tricky about it which from what I have heard is the wiring. The motor is due to be at my house by the end of July or early August. I sent my money out for it today so it is final my beast is gonna be a diesel. They get quite good mileage as well. I figure I should be over 35mpg but I am aiming for over 40 and hopefully closer to 50 if I gear it all right and take it easy on the old go pedal. But I would be happy with between 35 and 40. These are computer controlled motors so if you chip them you can up the power by around 30% according to what I have read on the Australian boards. But I'm thinking I'll be happy with 15hp and 50lb ft over the 3vze. With a bit larger exhaust I think it will be a bit more than that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuCzd-QwQco
Thats a link to a video with a truck from New Zealand with the turbo diesel in it. But obviously not in perfect shape as it is blowing smoke. The one I'm getting is supposed to be in very good shape so it should not do that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuCzd-QwQco
Thats a link to a video with a truck from New Zealand with the turbo diesel in it. But obviously not in perfect shape as it is blowing smoke. The one I'm getting is supposed to be in very good shape so it should not do that.
#106
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From: Nashville TN. I can help you if you're close BUT NOBODY CAN HELP YOU IF YOU DON'T FILL YOUR LOCATION IN!
IMO the Cummins 4BT is way too overkill... Way too tall block, and all bottom end... no mid or top... You need too crazy a BL just to get the thing in... Even 80's... Fj80's have a hard time getting one in.
If you want a 0-60 in 30+ seconds, gopher it!
overkill...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moUOeeH13Fs
VVV NOT overkill...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zC8ZICmFKTw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWhsL58G92g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEgl5P-Ooew
If you want a 0-60 in 30+ seconds, gopher it!
overkill...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moUOeeH13Fs
VVV NOT overkill...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zC8ZICmFKTw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWhsL58G92g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEgl5P-Ooew
Last edited by tried4x2signN; Feb 26, 2010 at 06:38 AM.
#107
Diesels blow black smoke, it's what they do. It's unburnt fuel coming out of the exhaust. If they don't blow black smoke at least every once in a while, then there is a problem hahahahahaha.
#108
the ome617 swap is awsome still working on a few bugs in the swaps ....
that red 4runner is having some overheating problems....
but power wise its a great motor,
any guys willing to sacrifice a little bed space could pull it off.
that red 4runner is having some overheating problems....
but power wise its a great motor,
any guys willing to sacrifice a little bed space could pull it off.
#109
4bt would be the way to go, you get the cummins reliabilty and the ease of modification, you can practically put all of the 6bt parts on to it, make sure you go for a mechanical injection pump, ive have alot of issuues with the VP44 found on the 98.5 and up 24v. and with the right tuning you can get up to a DD 300 hp
#110
along with being a yota guy, im also a huge diesel head and work for cummins. so the thought has crossed my mind and actualy looked into it. you can do it but its going to be pain. electric fans, rad in the bed, both batteries in the bed, electic water pump, oil filter by pass, alt on the driveshaft, possabably a custom header (so the turbo fits), ext...
if you want to do all that your still looking to put a 1000-1200lbs engine in a yota (not including the heavy tranny and t case). it will be extermely nose heavy and have a poor center of gravity.
jmo. if you want a cummins, get a 4bt and get it as close to the firewall as you can.
if you want to do all that your still looking to put a 1000-1200lbs engine in a yota (not including the heavy tranny and t case). it will be extermely nose heavy and have a poor center of gravity.
jmo. if you want a cummins, get a 4bt and get it as close to the firewall as you can.
Last edited by BlackedOut90; Mar 29, 2010 at 04:15 PM.
#111
i know of a guy that put the 4cyl cummins diesel in his toyota runner it was great for the trails and pulled hard, they also can be found in asphault packers,small delivery trucks,another great thing is that they have mechanical injection pumps which csn be tweacked up ,put a big ass turbo and some stock 5.9 injectors let rock you can also get a bell housing for a stock toyota tranny
#112
Be a man...

Model Cummins QSK60-L
Type 4 Cycle
Aspiration Two-stage turbocharged intercooled &
low temperature aftercooled. 8 turbochargers.
Emission Certification U.S. EPA Tier 1
Rated Power @1900 min-1(rpm)
(SAE J1995) 2 014 kW (2 700 HP)
Net power @1900 min-1(rpm)
(SAE J1349) 1 920 kW (2 575 HP)
Maximum Torque @1 500 min-1(rpm)
10 630 N.m (1 084 kgf.m,7 840 lbf.ft)
No. Cylinders 16
Bore & Stroke 159 x 190 mm
(6.26 in x 7.48 in)
Displacement 60.2 L (3 674 in3)
Starting 24 Volt Electric

Model Cummins QSK60-L
Type 4 Cycle
Aspiration Two-stage turbocharged intercooled &
low temperature aftercooled. 8 turbochargers.
Emission Certification U.S. EPA Tier 1
Rated Power @1900 min-1(rpm)
(SAE J1995) 2 014 kW (2 700 HP)
Net power @1900 min-1(rpm)
(SAE J1349) 1 920 kW (2 575 HP)
Maximum Torque @1 500 min-1(rpm)
10 630 N.m (1 084 kgf.m,7 840 lbf.ft)
No. Cylinders 16
Bore & Stroke 159 x 190 mm
(6.26 in x 7.48 in)
Displacement 60.2 L (3 674 in3)
Starting 24 Volt Electric
#113
And yes, more turbo (which means more air for combustion), will help a lot in clearing up that black smoke
#116
You are correct. Black smoke on a diesel means you are delivering too much fuel. The resulting black smoke is unburned fuel. A properly tuned diesel should not smoke like a freight train, although older mechanical diesel engines all smoke to a small degree.
And yes, more turbo (which means more air for combustion), will help a lot in clearing up that black smoke
And yes, more turbo (which means more air for combustion), will help a lot in clearing up that black smoke
on a side note, i can't believe this thread is still going, man i miss this community. PEACE all
#117
Aside from fitting it, you can build it however you want... Good bottom/mid/top end is pretty easy with modern diesel technology.
#118
Be a man...

Model Cummins QSK60-L
Type 4 Cycle
Aspiration Two-stage turbocharged intercooled &
low temperature aftercooled. 8 turbochargers.
Emission Certification U.S. EPA Tier 1
Rated Power @1900 min-1(rpm)
(SAE J1995) 2 014 kW (2 700 HP)
Net power @1900 min-1(rpm)
(SAE J1349) 1 920 kW (2 575 HP)
Maximum Torque @1 500 min-1(rpm)
10 630 N.m (1 084 kgf.m,7 840 lbf.ft)
No. Cylinders 16
Bore & Stroke 159 x 190 mm
(6.26 in x 7.48 in)
Displacement 60.2 L (3 674 in3)
Starting 24 Volt Electric

Model Cummins QSK60-L
Type 4 Cycle
Aspiration Two-stage turbocharged intercooled &
low temperature aftercooled. 8 turbochargers.
Emission Certification U.S. EPA Tier 1
Rated Power @1900 min-1(rpm)
(SAE J1995) 2 014 kW (2 700 HP)
Net power @1900 min-1(rpm)
(SAE J1349) 1 920 kW (2 575 HP)
Maximum Torque @1 500 min-1(rpm)
10 630 N.m (1 084 kgf.m,7 840 lbf.ft)
No. Cylinders 16
Bore & Stroke 159 x 190 mm
(6.26 in x 7.48 in)
Displacement 60.2 L (3 674 in3)
Starting 24 Volt Electric
you can pick up a qsk60 piston and rod assembaly. the EMD's and GE's you have to use a chain fall.
#120
Just because you CAN doesn't mean you SHOULD! And just because you have the power doesn't mean you have the means to tow. Just look what happened to my dad last summer pulling too heavy of a load with too light of a truck. Sure we had the power, but not a heavy enough truck to keep the load under control. That trailer was EMPTY! Imagine towing a whole 'nother vehicle with a puny little mini truck. Sure, you'll have the torque, but your frame is built for towing, you may have the axles, but your truck isn't going to weigh 8-9k lbs like a 3/4 or 1 ton pickup that's actually built for towing. My dad was going 30mph!! Imagine trying to tow something at 55-75mph! And don't forget the most important thing, BRAKES! There's no way your going to have the braking power to stop your load, because your trucks going to be too light to stop your trailer, which is what happened here...




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