Big Bear May 27th
May 17, 2006 | 11:59 AM
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Big Bear May 27th
Figured I might as well start a specific thread going for the trip to Big Bear I'm trying to throw together. Anywho, here's the plan:
I'm going to get there around noon on Friday and explore, then settle down at the Cactus Flats. There are no reservations needed to camp here and campfires aren't allowed so bring a lantern if you've got one. Here's the directions for the Cactus Flats.
Everyone meet at the Discovery Center at 9:30am Saturday morning and be ready to leave at 10am. Wheel all day, eat lunch on the trail, then end the wheeling around 5pm.
I'm going to be spending the night Saturday, but that's only because I'm heading over to Barstow around 10 or 11 on Sunday to check out the FJ team.
An adventure pass is required for the day and can be bought at the Discovery Center for $5/day or $30 for a season pass. (Thanks CompassCreek!)
CB Channel for comms: Ch 4
I'm going to get there around noon on Friday and explore, then settle down at the Cactus Flats. There are no reservations needed to camp here and campfires aren't allowed so bring a lantern if you've got one. Here's the directions for the Cactus Flats.
Take HWY 18 east from Big Bear and look for Forest Road 3N03 on the right. Follow the signs into the area.
I'm going to be spending the night Saturday, but that's only because I'm heading over to Barstow around 10 or 11 on Sunday to check out the FJ team.
An adventure pass is required for the day and can be bought at the Discovery Center for $5/day or $30 for a season pass. (Thanks CompassCreek!)
CB Channel for comms: Ch 4
Last edited by Tanto; May 17, 2006 at 08:21 PM.
May 17, 2006 | 05:00 PM
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Who am I going to lean on about this trip? 
Anyways, I will work out a route on Friday that is friendly towards 2wd vehicles and is therefore EASY. I'd like to see as many people make it out to this and have fun.
1st post updated!
Anyways, I will work out a route on Friday that is friendly towards 2wd vehicles and is therefore EASY. I'd like to see as many people make it out to this and have fun.
1st post updated!
May 17, 2006 | 08:08 PM
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Ryan I cannot make this trip but you should look into the Gold Mt run. Lots of fun. I did it with my Runner almost totally stock. There is a really cool rock garden section that has a bypass if needed but it gets very interesting! Have a good time. I will catch the next one.
May 17, 2006 | 08:16 PM
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You need an Adventure Pass, things have changed this year. Here's a "copy and paste" and link from the forest service website:
A pass for the day is only $5 and can be picked up at the Discovery Center.
Dennis
http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/sanbernardin...#fee-free-days
Free Days
During 1999 the Forest Service designated 12 "Free" Days per year when the Adventure Pass is not required. This was done to ensure that people who felt they could not afford a pass had several opportunities annually to visit the forests without having to pay a fee. This policy was still in affect during 2005.
What has changed? The Federal Lands Recreation Enhancement Act (REA) eliminated the "need" for Free Days. More than 80% of these forests no longer require fees. Beginning January 1, 2006, there are only two Free Days authorized per year. The dates coincide with National Trails Day (Saturday, June 3, 2006), and National Public Lands Day (Saturday, September 30, 2006). Watch this web site for additional information concerning NTD and NPLD.
A pass for the day is only $5 and can be picked up at the Discovery Center.
Dennis
http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/sanbernardin...#fee-free-days
Free Days
During 1999 the Forest Service designated 12 "Free" Days per year when the Adventure Pass is not required. This was done to ensure that people who felt they could not afford a pass had several opportunities annually to visit the forests without having to pay a fee. This policy was still in affect during 2005.
What has changed? The Federal Lands Recreation Enhancement Act (REA) eliminated the "need" for Free Days. More than 80% of these forests no longer require fees. Beginning January 1, 2006, there are only two Free Days authorized per year. The dates coincide with National Trails Day (Saturday, June 3, 2006), and National Public Lands Day (Saturday, September 30, 2006). Watch this web site for additional information concerning NTD and NPLD.
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May 18, 2006 | 09:16 AM
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I was under the impression that as long as you were just passing thru you did not need the adventure pass. Once you park your vehicle at one of the designated parking spots within the park required the adventure pass. I may be wrong and don't mind the clarification. I read the links but they really didn't get into details so I'm still stumped. Regardless I get the annual pass anyway so it's no biggie for me 
Now how about if you live in BB? Do you get an exception? Cuz my gf has a cabin up in the boonies so how does that affect us?
EDIT:
Recreation Area use fees require display of the Adventure Pass or Golden Passes on the parked vehicle.
Looks like AP is not required as long as you're not parked.
Now how about if you live in BB? Do you get an exception? Cuz my gf has a cabin up in the boonies so how does that affect us?
EDIT:
Recreation Area use fees require display of the Adventure Pass or Golden Passes on the parked vehicle.
Looks like AP is not required as long as you're not parked.
Last edited by Good Times; May 18, 2006 at 09:18 AM.
May 18, 2006 | 01:37 PM
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As long as your not parked your AP doesn't come into play. I don't remember how residency affects the AP, but nearly everyone that lives up there doesn't live in the "recreation" areas so I can't imagine living on the mountain exempts you from getting an AP. I do know if you are a resident and want a Wilderness Permit you can get one good for a month as opposed to day use of specified dates that the rest of us low landers get. Here's link showing where the Ap is needed:
http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/sanbernardino/passes/rea.shtml
Note the fee areas are all outside of town.
Dennis
http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/sanbernardino/passes/rea.shtml
Note the fee areas are all outside of town.
Dennis
May 18, 2006 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Passes & Permits - Recreation Enhancement Act
The Forest Service is reducing the area in Southern California where the Adventure Pass is required. The changes are the result of the Federal Lands Recreation Enhancement Act (REA), which was passed in December 2004 as part of the 2005 Consolidated Appropriations Act. REA allows the Forest Service to charge fees for specific sites, and for heavily impacted recreation areas that have specific amenities, including toilets, parking, trash receptacles, picnic tables, interpretation, and security.
Despite the large urban populations living within the Forest boundary, only 19% of the San Bernardino National Forest will require the fee. The Adventure Pass will still be required, however, in most locations that are popular with visitors. The non-fee areas are more remote, have fewer visitors, and experience fewer impacts from visitor use than fee locations.
The revenues from the fees will allow the Forest Service to continue to maintain trails, clean restrooms, pick up trash, remove litter and graffiti, and provide visitor information and other services. We appreciate the public’s patience as we adjust signing and print new brochures showing where fees are required.
The Adventure Pass is required when your vehicle is parked in one of the listed High Impact Recreation Areas, or if you are parked at a specific Designated Site.
Although all of our campgrounds require payment of fees, the Adventure Pass is required as payment for a few of our more remote locations. Contact the local Ranger Station for a copy of our Visitor Guide, which lists the fees for each campground.
Despite the large urban populations living within the Forest boundary, only 19% of the San Bernardino National Forest will require the fee. The Adventure Pass will still be required, however, in most locations that are popular with visitors. The non-fee areas are more remote, have fewer visitors, and experience fewer impacts from visitor use than fee locations.
The revenues from the fees will allow the Forest Service to continue to maintain trails, clean restrooms, pick up trash, remove litter and graffiti, and provide visitor information and other services. We appreciate the public’s patience as we adjust signing and print new brochures showing where fees are required.
The Adventure Pass is required when your vehicle is parked in one of the listed High Impact Recreation Areas, or if you are parked at a specific Designated Site.
Although all of our campgrounds require payment of fees, the Adventure Pass is required as payment for a few of our more remote locations. Contact the local Ranger Station for a copy of our Visitor Guide, which lists the fees for each campground.
Btw, you can pick up the passes at any of your local sporting good store (i.e. REI, Sport Chalet etc).
May 18, 2006 | 05:35 PM
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Yep just like you have said already in post 8 and myself in post 10 you only need the pass if you stop for lunch or something like that. being that it is the first major weekend I'm sure there will be people(OHV Volunteers and the FS) out checking IF you are parked.
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