Don't Wheel and Drink
09-07-2010, 09:07 PM
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Don't Wheel and Drink
Its guys like this that give the offroad community a bad name as a whole
Link: http://www.ktla.com/news/local/ktla-...,3415002.story
Don't drink and wheel, don't drink and drive.. Tread Lightly!
Link: http://www.ktla.com/news/local/ktla-...,3415002.story
Originally Posted by KTLA.com
APPLE VALLEY -- An 16-month-old baby boy has died after the off-road vehicle he was riding in plunged into a spillway in Apple Valley. CHP detectives say the driver -- the boy's father -- was driving under the influence.
It happened around 9:30 p.m. near the intersection of South Deep Creek Road and Rock Springs Road at the Saddle Dike embankment of the Mojave River.
23-year-old Hunter Keenan Kilmer was driving his 1987 Suzuki Samurai off-road with 19-year-old Justin Rivera. The driver's child, 16-month-old Ford Lewis Kilmer, was in a car seat in the back.
Investigators arrested Hunter Kilmer on suspicion of manslaughter and driving under the influence.
Kilmer had reportedly been through this off-road area before, but he tried to inch his way through high water.
The jeep rolled over in nine feet of water.
Kilmer and Rivera made it out of the vehicle, but the child did not.
CHP investigators said the vehicle's side doors were welded shut for off-roading purposes, which hampered efforts to get the child out.
It happened around 9:30 p.m. near the intersection of South Deep Creek Road and Rock Springs Road at the Saddle Dike embankment of the Mojave River.
23-year-old Hunter Keenan Kilmer was driving his 1987 Suzuki Samurai off-road with 19-year-old Justin Rivera. The driver's child, 16-month-old Ford Lewis Kilmer, was in a car seat in the back.
Investigators arrested Hunter Kilmer on suspicion of manslaughter and driving under the influence.
Kilmer had reportedly been through this off-road area before, but he tried to inch his way through high water.
The jeep rolled over in nine feet of water.
Kilmer and Rivera made it out of the vehicle, but the child did not.
CHP investigators said the vehicle's side doors were welded shut for off-roading purposes, which hampered efforts to get the child out.
Don't drink and wheel, don't drink and drive.. Tread Lightly!
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09-07-2010, 09:11 PM
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ugh. That's just sad. Thanks for posting this up Scuba. A good reminder for everyone.
09-07-2010, 10:30 PM
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Save it for those nights around the campfire... irresponability with a 4,000 lb. machine is plain ignorance.
Also, Dont weld your doors... really? how stupid can you get...
Also, Dont weld your doors... really? how stupid can you get...
09-08-2010, 07:08 AM
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What was this guy thinking?!! First off why the hell was he wheeling with his 16 month old child in the back seat in the first place? Bouncing around on rough terrain can easily injure a young child. Second, he was wheeling under the influence which needless to say is DANGEROUS!! Third, why would you even chance a water crossing like that with your young child in the back seat? It is just asking for trouble. Finally, why would you weld your doors shut? That is just flat out dumb. It is so sad when stupid and irresponsible people like this end up killing someone else instead of themselves...
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09-08-2010, 07:54 AM
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A child is never too young to bring along. My buddy Dave and his wife brought their 3 month old to a snow run last year.. He's just not dumb about it.
09-08-2010, 08:39 AM
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I don't know if I agree with that...I think it partially depends on the type of trail, if it is relatively smooth then I'm sure the child would be fine but a small child getting knocked around in a carseat on a bumpy/rocky trail is NEVER a good idea.
09-08-2010, 08:45 AM
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Bones on a young child are a bit soft still so I would at least ask a doctor before subjecting a small body to being bounced around but if there is no dangers then I'd gladly take my child. I've seen adults get whiplash on a trail from being whipped around which could break an infants neck so it would be a concern.
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09-08-2010, 02:17 PM
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Bones on a young child are a bit soft still so I would at least ask a doctor before subjecting a small body to being bounced around but if there is no dangers then I'd gladly take my child. I've seen adults get whiplash on a trail from being whipped around which could break an infants neck so it would be a concern.
09-08-2010, 08:19 PM
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i go over and wheel at deep creek close to where this happened all the time. There are some deep spots. And most people are wasted out there. wheeling and drinking is irresponsible, but with a baby and around water is just plain stupid.
He is an idiot.
Plus most places around Deep creek are illegal to be at.
He is an idiot.
Plus most places around Deep creek are illegal to be at.
09-15-2010, 09:14 AM
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Damn shame. I feel bad for him hes going to have to live with that the rest of his life. I would never take my daughter off roading so young its just not worth the risk. my daughters 9 now and she loves it. sometimes on my 4 wheeler she wants me to go faster but I don't cause im always worried about what can go wrong.
09-15-2010, 09:38 AM
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Im guilty of it myself tho atleast ill admit it.. Very dumb of me and always leads to bad stuff happening to my truck and bad experiences which isnt good. Luckily i havent hurt anyone or myself. Not a good idea. Once a guy with his family (all waisted) and their young daughter followed me after I repeadedly told them not to. the did anyway and got themselves in a real bad spot. I wasnt about to see anyone get hurt nor help them out of the situation (which wasnt realy life threatning) just a dumb spot for his big rig to go so my group got out of there as quick as we could. Drinking and wheeling leads to nothing good and very dumb on my part to have in the past. Hope to make much better desicions in the future.
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