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Old Nov 14, 2011 | 07:12 AM
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IFS wheelers

Hey guys. I have noticed the majority of the people here using solid front axles and I understand why. But I'm wondering if there is anyone (or how many) out there using a IFS set-up. I'm interested in seeing what there set-up is and how it compares to a SFA rig; in on/off road, price, and difficulty/fabrication involved during install.
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Old Nov 14, 2011 | 07:19 AM
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I'm not sure why this was moved to the newbie tech forum. I understand what IFS and SFA are. I'm looking to see what people have done for IFS set-ups. I don't think that answer will be found in this forum
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Old Nov 14, 2011 | 07:23 AM
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I'm confused. Are you talking about converting a 2WD truck into 4WD, or what?

I think just about all Toyota trucks that are sold since the mid 80's will have IFS. You can add long travel control arms and keep IFS, add the $2000 CV axles advertised in an issue of 4WD Toyota Owners Magazine, and have a lot invested. I wheel my IFS whenever I get the chance







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Old Nov 14, 2011 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by brysawn
Hey guys. I have noticed the majority of the people here using solid front axles and I understand why. But I'm wondering if there is anyone (or how many) out there using a IFS set-up. I'm interested in seeing what there set-up is and how it compares to a SFA rig; in on/off road, price, and difficulty/fabrication involved during install.
It's probably the other way around. The majority of people here are using IFS. Either for the meantime, waiting to SAS eventually, or for the long haul(like me). I'm not that big on solid axles myself. IFS gets me where I wanna go...and then some. My Toyota will ALWAYS be IFS. Well...until I buy another one that isn't, but I still want atleast one IFS truck. They're just plain more fun IMO. More challenge = more fun. And like a buddy of mine who owns an 88 4Runner says "we can go just about anywhere they(SFAs) can, and I'd like to see 'em try and keep up with us through some high-speed woops...NOT HAPPENIN'!!!"
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I'm not sure why this was moved to the newbie tech forum. I understand what IFS and SFA are. I'm looking to see what people have done for IFS set-ups. I don't think that answer will be found in this forum
1. It's 100% Newbie Tech.
2. The answer you seek will be found HERE, and likely NOWHERE else.

But you're free to leave at any time...if you wish. Don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya!
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Old Nov 14, 2011 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by MudHippy
1. It's 100% Newbie Tech.
2. The answer you seek will be found HERE, and likely NOWHERE else.

But you're free to leave at any time...if you wish. Don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya!

How about the suspension forum? I guess I should have placed this thread there to begin with.

I have a lifted 86 4x4 pickup, and I'd like to see more advanced IFS set-ups. I know why people go SFA and I know how do it, and how it works. I just want to see people who wheel advanced IFS set-ups and what parts they have used.

OR: what needs to be done to a IFS truck to have it comparable to a SFA truck (in off-road conditions)
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Old Nov 14, 2011 | 08:30 AM
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Heres what ive got right now: Blazeland front suspension with coil-over assist. It makes the front end almost 7" wider than stock but handles very good. I noticed that when drifting corners the back end will break loose while the front end stays right where you want it. I can now take rough roads at any speed I want as well as can crawl in the rocks just as good.




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Old Nov 14, 2011 | 08:34 AM
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Look for axleike's ifs improvement build if you want to see what people are doing to make ifs better.


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Old Nov 14, 2011 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by brysawn
How about the suspension forum? I guess I should have placed this thread there to begin with.

I have a lifted 86 4x4 pickup, and I'd like to see more advanced IFS set-ups. I know why people go SFA and I know how do it, and how it works. I just want to see people who wheel advanced IFS set-ups and what parts they have used.

OR: what needs to be done to a IFS truck to have it comparable to a SFA truck (in off-road conditions)
It's Newbie Tech BECAUSE in reality it's an "Often asked technical question". And wouldn't belong in the suspension forum as such. It's been asked before, AND OFTEN. I'd suggest you search some more...there's TONS of info here.

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Blazeland.us (See posts by BlazeN8 for more info)

AxleIke's rigs are another prime example of what can be done. Or tc's 2nd gen 4Runner if you wanna compare to a stocker with lockers style approach to IFS(which works SURPRISINGLY well, even rock crawling).

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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by scuba
Look for axleike's ifs improvement build if you want to see what people are doing to make ifs better.


Thats what I was going to recommend. Hes put the most lovin' into to the ifs out of anybody.

That being said. Im still running IFS and will be for another year or so. Its pretty durable in stock form and isnt bad for the trails I run. The tie rods and idler arms take a beating, but there are fixes for both of those.






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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 07:19 AM
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I own both a SFA rig and an IFS rig and honestly unless you are going to build a rock crawler, mid-travel 4x4 IFS is the future for the average wheeler. More tunable, better daily driving characteristics, more versatile, more fun overall IMO.
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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 04:27 PM
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this is the setup i am looking at http://chaosfab.com/
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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 06:48 PM
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I have an 88 with ifs and it gets the job done, it just doesnt look quite as cool when im rock baggin.
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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 06:54 PM
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IFS can do lots!




That being said, I'm SAS'ing this winter.

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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 06:54 PM
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this is the setup i am looking at http://chaosfab.com/
Blazeland's is cheaper and just as good. Unless yur gonna desert pre-run, and even then, you don't need TC's stuff.
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Old Dec 3, 2011 | 12:16 PM
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Attached Thumbnails IFS wheelers-dscf0002-5-.jpg   IFS wheelers-dscf0012.jpg   IFS wheelers-img_0216.jpg  
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Old Dec 3, 2011 | 12:23 PM
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Old Dec 3, 2011 | 12:27 PM
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Old Dec 3, 2011 | 03:25 PM
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if you want to wheel cheap, stay IFS, but if you wana wheel and drop a couple gee's on a susp setup, i wouldnt go long travel personally. go SFA. i wheel IFS. BJ spacers and 35s about to be locked front welded rear. broke my first CV a few months back, and my BJs are being replaced b.c they have a sbout a 1/2in of slack each way. take the sway bar off, cut the fenders lock it put some 33s on it and wheel it til you don tliek it no more, then SAS. and man rattlewagons yota always gets my horses runnin. heck, everbody else is postin pics so here ya go





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Old Dec 3, 2011 | 04:44 PM
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If you wanna wheel rocks than SFA... If you like mud and snow etc, nothing at all wrong with IFS. In mud and snow I've seen SFA trucks have MORE trouble because they end up pushing a wall of snow or mud in front of the axle..

But I still like SFA... Nothing really beats it
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Old Dec 3, 2011 | 06:58 PM
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everything in this link was IFS except for one 85 runner.https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f100...8-11-a-240480/

same trail different event, all IFS.
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f100...amping-216384/

I am running Blazeland now.

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