JDS1192, if you weld your rear you will go through tires faster. If you can't find any threads about changing over your hubs to manual, send me a PM and I can help you out.

Keep in mind that If you try to push the stock IFS too far and do a bunch of mods to get more travel, you'll start having CV trouble (unless you wanna wheel in 2wd?)

 

X3 here.

As much as I love the flex of a SFA (looks crazy cool) I vastly prefer the ride of an IFS rig. As a note I do a lot of long distance driving to get to the beginning of the trails/fishing/camping areas that I enjoy. The IFS makes the ride more pleasant for my lady and myself. Once I get to those areas a little bit of knowledge of my rig and driving finesse gets me in a lot farther than I would have thought possible in this little truck. Well..... the gears, lift and dual lockers also help a bit.

Don't count that IFS out just because it doesn't have monster flex, it'll do just fine.

 

Aw heck, Logan has done so much to that rig of his that it's like a damn IFS M1 Tank. You just can't stop that thing.

 

I agree... I find that there are so many people who just say SAS is the answer, but it really depends on where you are going. There aren't too many rocks to crawl around here, so I don't see the need for a SAS. For road driving, mud, snow, and trails, IFS is great.

 

That's the truth. I can't count how many people told me just to bite the bullet and SFA mine when I started posting about rock crawling and how to get the most "bang for my buck". I really considered it until I started wheeling and realized that the IFS is very capable if you do some other low budget mods.

 

I would love to do an SAS on mine, but I've also wheeled mine for the last 10 years (and the last 3 pretty hard) and there is a lot that can be done with an IFS. I get looks and comments from the Jeepers almost every time I'm on a difficult trail. They always seem to be surprised how well the Toyota IFS does, even on the rocks. Most of them joke around at 1st and make tough guy comments, but then after I cruise up the obstacle they usually give the Yota props.

The biggest thing with IFS isn't the lack of flex (although a SFA flexes a lot more), it's strength. For more hardcore wheeling, the CVs just have a hard time taking the torque that is necessary to get over some ofthe bigger/steeper obstacles. That said, I still have yet to pop my broken CV cherry on the trail (which is lucky for how much wheeling I do) so they will still take a lot of abuse.

 

That's true, and there aren't really many things to get stronger CV's, but I think they are as strong as any stock Birfs.

 

Dont turn this into another SAS vs IFS thread :/ there's enough of those as is!

I agree with scuba... Good driving, lockers, and gears will you get practically anywhere. I just recently locked and geared my 4Runner and it's a night and day difference.

 

X3, right back at ya, mate.

I've done a few trails out here at the hammers that most people wouldn't ever think an IFS truck could get through. Aftershock, Clawhammer, and Chocolate thunder, just to name a few..
I've gotten props from the guys in buggies on 60's and 40's who just say "hell man, you've made me impressed at what IFS can do.."

Look up a thread I recently created in the trip report section called "clawhammer and chocolate thunder" if you really want to see what ifs can do.

 

you know what i meant

 

Cool Thanks man, Appreciate it.

 

Wow! I never knew you could get that much flex outta IFS

 

he has long travel. not even comparable. cost like 2 grand i think

 

IFS flexes just fine...

What some of you are forgetting is that THE REAR does the most flexing anyway!

And ya don't need flex IF you've got traction!

Flex is over rated! Especially in The United States of Highways.

Get a traction diff and you can put this flex crap to bed!


Trust me. A stock IFS'd rig with lockers or LTD slips front and rear will go in WAY more places an open diffed slinky can even dream about!

 

I agree, I proved that point a few times out on the trails. Although I will say when a solid axle rig is fully locked, it may go places that I can't. There are a few obstacles I've come across that would likely grenade my CVs trying to crawl up fully locked, whereas a fully locked solid axle rig would have the strength to make it without driveline damage (and a little more flex too)

 

yeaa Agreed All..I like my IFS, ive never driven a straight axel Yota on the Road so i dnt really know the difference on the Highways...and I dnt have the Funds to lock my front and rear..Im a kid working part time as a gas pumper in oregon at 8.50 an hour

My 3.0 Gets 10MPGs so most of my money goes for just gas.I got a bad O2 Sensor..so Im sure it cuts my Gas Mileage by a lot i used to get 15 in the City and 18 on the HWY.now its 10 in the city and 12 on the HWY.

Going to Convert my Truck to manual hubs soon then Ill lock my front and rear..

Browns Camp trip here pretty soon anybody here is welcome..

 

Good tires front and rear lockers (luchbox front and like a detroit rear) maybe mild lift with taller tires and shocks. Screw the flex my T100 ifs i can have it aligned in like 20min caster camber and toe drive down the road smooth and dont have to worry about exessive tire wear. Its a pain to get a solid axle set correct yes their tuffer but once u make our toyotas a real 4wd instead of a 2x4 they are amazing. mine went through 28" of snow the other day without getting stuck. Tires and lockers make the difference.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mzO3nuxP4c

 

flex? who needs it just have a tire lift in the air every once in a while and pucker your cheeks.....(not the ones on your face)

 

something is wrong with all your guys' ifs. . . mine flexes great!





on a serious note, a IFS rig with swaybar removed and locked rear is very impressive where it will go. . .

 

screw flex, i think a set of lockers and a set of super swampers is in my future.




then i'll want some flex, so i'll install the blazeland LT