Seajimbo

I have a 1992 Toyota 4WD manual tranny with lockout hubs . can I tow this on all 4 wheels and do I need to do anything special other than putting the tranny and transfer case in neutral, like putting it in H2 to lube the transfer case. I'm getting a lot of 'sure I don't see why not " or "yeah you should be fine" answers. I want to know the real answer that's why I'm here. Thanks Guy's in advance for your help

arlindsay1992

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Unbolt the rear of the driveshaft from the differential and tie it up to the frame/bed. Just need 2 14mm wrenches to remove the 4 driveshaft bolts and their nuts.

dropzone

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The rear out put doesn't get lubed properly per Marlin .
Unbolt the rear shaft

thefishguy77

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Unbolt your rear driveshaft or blow your tranny. Your choice.

wyoming9

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I pull the drive shaft towing any rear wheel drive vehicle.

Bottom line this is your vehicle do as you wish

Seajimbo

Thanks Guy's
you answered my question I'll be disconnecting the rear drive shaft

MudHippy

It might depend on which transfer case. Chain drive or gear drive. Chain drive yes you can w/o removing the rear driveshaft. A fact confirmed by Toyota. RTFM.



https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f2/t...-dolly-294030/

I don't know what DZ did wrong to eff his up. But he quite obviously did something wrong. Unless he can prove otherwise. Not taking his word for it if it conflicts with Toyota documentation. Sorry. As a matter of fact not taking his word on anything. But that's just me.

And Marlin doesn't know chain drive t-cases better than I do. He wishes he does.

How about we stop with all the disinformation? Sound like a plan?

I TOLD YOU HOW THE OIL PUMP IN A CHAIN DRIVE T-CASE WORKS. YOU CAN EITHER ACCEPT THAT AS FACT OR PROVE OTHERWISE. IN SHORT YOU DON'T PUT THE T-CASE IN NEUTRAL AND THE INPUT SHAFT DOES SPIN. GOT THAT!? IT'S A FRICKEN NO BRAINER!!! MARLIN EVEN STATES SO BUT HE'S TOO RETARDED TO UNDERSTAND THAT HE'S WRONG BY SAYING WHAT HE SAID ABOUT NEEDING TO REMOVE THE DRIVESHAFT.


As another matter of fact, now I'm pissed. I'm going to email and/or call the guy to explain that to him. He'll either retract that statement or he's going to wish he did. That's THE stupidest bunch of total BS when he knows how they work. He said so. Put 2 and 2 together you moron(not you...him).

I'll be back ASAP with his response.


In case you think I'm joking about that.

http://board.marlincrawler.com/index...100482.new#new

dropzone

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so my truck somehow went into gear leading to my destroyed transmission and case. Yep, I screwed up and it was an expensive lesson, I will always pull the rear shaft instead of being lazy
transmission spline coupler shouldn't come out when you disconnect the T/C from transmission

here you can see that the bearing have overheated

here is what the input looked like


i frigging hate working on T/C's



here is where I get the don't flat tow with rear shaft
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/toyot...faq-2-0-a.html

millball

My '87 4runner was towed 10s' of thousands of miles on all 4 wheels by the original owners. I'm sure that they did not drop the driveshaft. (w56b 5-speed)

I don't know how they set the tranny and transfer case controls, but the tranny lasted over 275,000 miles before a mainshaft bearing failure KO'd it, and the transfer case is still sound.

It makes sense to me that putting the t-case into neutral is not wise.

2-wheel high and tranny neutral should surely drive the t-case input shaft.

MudHippy

FWIW he might be right(within the context of the conversation to which it applies). But he's wrong to state it in that manner(regardless). That is very misleading(if not entirely false). Maybe because it was taken out of context. I have no way of knowing(link leads me to a black page). EDIT: Just found it. No context to apply it to. VERY MISLEADING to the point of being completely wrong IMO. I just can't prove it to be 100% wrong regardless of interpretation(and he better hope I can't).

Maybe right how?

EDIT: You tell me. I can't find a single reason so far. I'd misread some things to lead me to believe otherwise.


Wait...I guess one.


1. You shouldn't tow an automatic transmission equipped vehicle on all for 4 wheels. But it has nothing to do with the transfer case. Chain drive or gear drive.

Definitely wrong how?

1. There's no such thing as an "auto" chain driven transfer case.
2. Not all chain driven transfer cases behind automatic transmissions are electronic(none are that I'm aware of).
3. To make a blanket statement basically saying, or implying, they all are(or that there's some kind of difference between one chain drive and another) is why we're having this conversation.
4. Chain drive transfer cases are NOT automatic period. NONE of them. That phrasing implies they are shifted automatically. Like an automatic transmission. As in from 4H to 4L...automatically. Never seen it, never heard of it, don't think it's even possible.
5. Here's the kicker...so far as I can tell there are no electronic shift VF1A/VF2A chain drive transfer cases. Or any made by Toyota at all. Hell I don't think there's such a thing as an electronic shift t-case period. Now that I think of it, I've never seen or even heard of one(maybe heard of, but didn't realize it).
6. What's a gear drive t-case that isn't manually shifted? Pretty sure they don't exist either.
7. How's a gear drive t-case behind a manual different than one behind an auto?


I've been generous to give him the benefit of the doubt considering where the result of his lack of clarity has lead to.


Boy I'll tell ya...if that's what they've got going on over on that forum...I'm sure glad I've avoided showing my face there until today. Totally worthless input. Near complete denial of reality. And the "big boys" got nothing to say for themselves.

dropzone

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irregardless, if the point is right or wrong, i will take 5-10 minutes to undo 4 bolts and a bungee cord.

People will do what they want. Pull it or don't pull it, ultimately up to the individual.

MudHippy

And as far as that goes. You're right. What really got me miffed is that quote from The Transfer Case King himself. Which like I'm saying...AFAIK is wrong. If not entirely. Pretty damn close to it. What's worse. Nobody over there who has any authority on the matter wants to come forward and tell me I wrong or right.


I'm trying to be nice and follow the guidelines by not calling or emailing questions that aren't about customer service or what the hell ever. I just get a bunch of forum lackies trying to tell me he's right because he's Marlin. Well excuse me. But he ain't.

wyoming9

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Working part time for a Towing and Recovery Company the last 10 years .

Our policy is if it is real wheel drive and the rear wheels are on the ground the driveshaft gets pulled .

When it is 0 Dark thirty one really tends to err on the side of caution .

Over the years I have found interesting drivelines in vehicles that by year and model should have had something quite different