Ok, well im looking into getting some larger tires, and body lift, and a brush guard in the future (possibly before the lift and tires)

How will the body lift affect a brush guard. I read in a few threads that i can maybe drill new holes. Is that a pretty common fix? Or is it something that im going to have to be very careful when picking the brush guard?

 

im guessing your trying to stay cheap on the lift ??

 

chad,

do yourself a favor, save the money you were going to spend on the brush guard and use it for more useful stuff like good tires, a real bumper, etc. body lift will leave a gap between the top of the bumper and teh bottom of the front quarter panels. search "body lift gap"

moved to newb section

bob

 

dont bother with the brush guard. spend your money on lift & tires first before buying something that offers no performance gains. use that money saved and save more. or do what i did and bust out the CC and buy an arb (or tjm or go custom)

my biased opion aside...i think brush guard mounts leave little room for mounting modifications. they bolt up to oem tow points i believe, and of course, are contoured to fit with no height alterations. id be willing to guess it'd be a bit more than drilling new holes...

 

when I get a chance I'll show you what a body lift does to a tjm, i have a 2 inch gap. ill take some pics tomorrow.. brushguard will be hard to correct and will look stupid, plus they are overly expensive and do more damage then good.

 

The main purpose is for some new extra lights. If you guys know of another way of mounting some lights, im all ears. I don't really want a brush guard for anything other than that. I don't really want a light bar on the top or anything. And where can i get a bumper? I have looked around for bumbers, but i can't take it to a shop for a custom bumber, it needs to be something that i can get off the internet.

 

https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f127/hella-500-driving-lights-3rd-gen-4runner-76375/

 

how about some sort of safari bar like the westin? or just mount on the bumper like the above poster said and what i did:

 

Honestly I have seen only one brushguard that is worth the money, manik, westin and go rhino are junk. The only one to ever get is warn, it is HD and will protect your vehicle well unlike the others.

A real bumper is nice, but alot of us just cannot afford the price tag or get to a shop.

 

Hmm, i guess i can give that a shot. Hopefully i don't mess up my bumber and make it look like crap.

 

tjm 17 bumper is the same price as a brushguard..

look into a desert runner guard that attachs to the bumper.. search gerdo's profile.. I like his little push bar stinger lookin bar and it attaches the the bumper, so if you got a bodylift, all you would need is bumper brackets and no gap.

 

I've got a 1" BL and the gap is still noticable at the front above the bumper. Do you have the tow bar still bolted to the rear? If you do, doing a BL will also leave a gap between the tow bar and the rear bumper.

 

i had a small gap from my 1" BL

heres what it looked like before:


i covered the gap by putting in garage door weatherstripping:

 

I have a whole section of my body lift page devoted to this subject:
- http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/ForSale/...ets/index.html

Lots of options, just depends on what you want to do.

 

You could always redo the brackets. Cheap and easy, well worth not seeing that ugly 2" gap
.

 

Why even bother with a body lift, you don't get any real benifit's from them besides the fact that you can put on bigger tire's. I would save the money and do a decent suspension lift, that way you can still put on bigger tire's and have the extra suspension travel to do some real wheel'n. Even though body lift's are cheap, they can still be a hassel to install.

 

1) mine was simple to install... take out body mounts, lift body off frame, install puck, reinstall mounts.

2) you do get a benefit: you can clear bigger tires like you said! it is cheap insurance against rubbing.

obviously suspension lifts will get you more (better flex, better performance, etc), but i wouldnt say they arent worth it.

 

I don't have anywhere that is going to require lots of suspension travel. I have NO rocks to crawl around on. I don't really plan on wheeling that hard core, because i just can't affored $1000 lift, and another $1000 in tires, and $500 worth of armor....

 

Raising front/rear bumpers increases approach/departure angles and also allows for sliders to be mounted higher. An inch of body lift has the least impact on center of gravity of any type of lift. Also allows the drivetrain and gas tank to be raised for increased breakover angle. Also, combining a mild suspension lift with a mild body lift can result in good combination. Using a softer, flatter leaf spring gives more travel than a stiffer, higher arched spring. And with the suspension allowing full compression, the body lift makes room for the tires to fit up in the wheel wells without rubbing.

 

I know im a little late here, but I have done all that you are already doing to your ride. Mine is a 95 4runner with a three inch body lift. I did that for the same purpose that you are with the extent to get bigger tires. I also have a brush guard that had to be cut and welded on the bottom and had to have two holes drilled into the bumper for extra support since the gap throws off the original spacing for it. All I can say is that if you want the brush guard, go for it, but i have to admit, I wish I got one of the more burly off road ones that fits on those diesel black bumpers. But for what you are asking for, is probably about 300 dollars labor to put on a body lift and to customize your brush guard to fit. Which is def cheaper than spending like you said, over a grand on just a suspension lift. Oh yeah, also if you get bigger tires, be ready to have a slower RPM rate and a loss in gas efficiency. Good luck!

Coot