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Old Nov 18, 2013 | 01:44 PM
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balljiont spacers and susp lift

Has anyone ran 1.5 bj spacers with a suspension lift? If you turn the bars all the way down wouldnt it be ok? I have a trail master lift on my 86 pickup. The previous owner replaced the rear springs with lift springs (that do not flex and ride horrible). The front has to be cranked up a good bit for it to be even close to level. Im just tired of the horrible ride.

I will be swapping the rear springs and decranking the bars. Just curious if anyone has used the bj spacers with the bars turned down.
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Old Nov 19, 2013 | 07:30 AM
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Stacking lift kits is generally a no.

But people have put BJ spacers on IFS bracket lifts before.
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Old Nov 19, 2013 | 08:32 AM
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I would think that as long as the bars are turned down the height and angles would be the same as with the bars cranked but, the ride would be much better.
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Old Nov 19, 2013 | 08:38 AM
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i think the trail master kit already messes with BJ location via new spindle adapters. i personally wouldn't do it unless the rig is trail-only and not your DD vehicle.

i would try and mess with what you have first. you have lift springs in back to match the bracket lift up front - you kinda need them for the height but you may be able to say pull a leaf out and get longer shackles -- really depends on what's on the rear now. for the front, you can see if still running stock t-bars or if they're stiffer aftermarket ones. un-cranking the tbars is generally a good idea for getting softer up-front. same with removing front swaybar if you're ok with that.

lastly, what are you comparing the ride quality to? gotta remember this is a leaf spring truck built 27yrs ago.
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Old Nov 19, 2013 | 09:19 AM
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The rear leaves almost do not flex plus it has homeade shackles. I know that the laeves are stiffer because of the lift but they just lift it to much. It does have aftermarket torsion bars. they are red. It would be one thing if it rode bad but it rides horrible. I would honestly compare it to a tractor. My gf refuses to ride in it. My plan is to decrank the bars until it the cv angles are about level and get some different rear springs. The po had helper springs on top of the arched leaves and 4 inch blocks. literally sat up 6 inches higher in the back. said he had it setup for the dunes

Im also not sure what the lift is but IT has duel shocks and steering stabilizers. (no engine in truck at the moment) Thats why the front angles are so bad Name:  IMG_20131119_125611855_zps4c3fb12b.jpg
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Here is a pic of the rear springs
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Then a side shot to show ride height. Its sitting on 32s at the moment. also has a 3 inch body lift. (hate it)Name:  IMG_20131119_125752842_HDR_zps492fa2a6.jpg
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Ive spent most of my time with this truck fixing what the po did to it. Ive been letting this truck sit since the engine messed up now im trying to turn it into a good dependable truck again.

Ill just add that this is what did my 22r in. never trust a flooded dirt road
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Old Nov 19, 2013 | 03:53 PM
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when it's back up and running, i would try messing with your rear leaf pack, try removing a leaf and see how it feels afterward - this will also lower the rear. in the front, get back to only one shock on each side as duals aren't helping the plushness. you can try to relax the t-bars, but they will always be stiff until you add more weight up front (like winch + steel bumper), perhaps swap them for stock ones. you will never really be able to lower it enough to get CV's flat.
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Old Nov 19, 2013 | 05:46 PM
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I second what the Potteryhead said. The rear shackles look to be about stock length, so remove a leaf and add a longer shackle if you need the lift. Kind of looks like that square cut leaf is added for possibly an overload or more lift, so I would lose that one first. And back those torsions off a bit. Lose the dual shocks on the fronts.

And I would guess that's an older Rancho lift?

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