Hi All,
New here, have a 2004 SR5 V6, went some off-roading, bashed my tail pipe, definitely need lift, bigger tires, and these sliders. Waiting for some coil over to come out as well!


Lawrence29
(Also 4runner.org)
1990 SR5 4runner
2004 SR5 4Runner
Honda NX 650

 

I would, but shipping would be crazy to get those to NC andI finally get to make a road trip back to Colorado so I'm going to be doing a lot of fab work myself too. I plan on making some burly sliders, a skidplate, and I'm gonna give a tubular front bumper a shot. I might go to a offroad shop for the front bumper though. If funds still allow, a rear tubular bumper with a rear tire carrier. A revtech or downey lift is under planning too. Thanks for the heads up though. They look like a solid product!

 

I'd be interested in a set of these sliders.
JLB

 

also saw a link to this from t4r.org...figured it was time for me to register on yotatech anyways...

I'm also interested in the full bolt-on ones. concerns of mine would be how much shipping would cost to get to college station, tx...if not too bad and I like their angles, I'd go for some.

Kev

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...spagename=WDVW

Since you guys really like the mount & design check this link out! The price is definately right @ $200 (how someone could do this i dont know). No these are not mine , and I have absolutely no affiliation with this person(in fact they are competition!!!). I just noticed his stuff on Ebay , and thought damn thats a nice looking product. Oddly enough it looks like a CARBON COPY of what you are showing- Does Hanna have a patent on the design!?
The Ubolt idea definately works (there are many who already do this & it has proven to work), and I had thought about using this for quite some time to take care of the people that did not want to weld on their sliders. It has always come down to the cost issue.
Hanna definately does nice looking work , and that 80 rocks!(wish it was mine).
Richard

oops I just noticed that at $200 there is still a reserve so they might be much higher than that.

 

I' definitely interested. Now I've got to work on the minister of finance, I mean my wife!

 

Count me in! Saw this over at t4r.org also, I've been looking for some good rock sliders for a while now. As stated a couple times, $750 is a little steep so I'm hoping they come down a little... But for a quality product you can't go wrong.

On a sidenote, will shipping be extra, or is that included?

 

Knew cross posting at toyota-4runner.org will get some more guys on board, hopefully that will allow Hanna to drop the price some.....hehehehehe (evil laugh )

Hope it speeds up development some too and also gets some other suppliers to realize the potential for aftermarket for the 4th Gen.

 

We've got quite a list going here so that's fantastic.

I knew cost would be an issue (I guess value is a better word?). Take any comparable slider(rectangular/DOM outrigger) and tally up the $$ all-in and you come close to Hanna's (and you still don't have alot of what makes Hanna's so great imo).
I hope all the interest might allow him to trim costs but I don't know until we speak again. I dunno- will run it all by him tho.

I also like the fact he kept refining them from the original- keep on innovating! (I should have taken pics of the roundbar support plate-!)

That's why I wanted to show him there was a market in 4Runners. They are Hanna's innovation and Hanna is the man to do it- and I expect the 4Runner's to be unique and innovative in their own right as well

HANNA slider in action (from PismoJim's excellent realcruiser.com)

Definitely interested:
First Toy
Rocky
Timber728
Bulldog-Yota
Pitbull
Fish
Kickaha
Lawrence29
JLB
Kglueck
mac4runner
Vortec4800
Edge (?)

Tacoma version-??
MVCrash

 

FirstToy,
I'm interested as well. Of course would like to see the finished product on your 4Runner, but most likely I am in.

Herman

 

Question for you guys, are the frame rails on the 4th generation 4runner hydroformed? I read this in one review article but have no facts from Toyota. Maybe Hanna can tell when he is working on the slider? I know if a frame rail is hydroformed you have to use special welding rules since if heated past a certain point it takes the hydorformed strength out of the frame rail. Just wondering?? I know that since these are bolt on it would not matter if they were or weren't hydroformed.

 

Hydroforming is just a different way of forming the steel. Does it "work harden it"? Yes it could potentially to a degree (depends mostly on the type of alloy being used). However think of how non hydroformed steel frames were made. Stamps & dies does that work harden the materal - yes it can(again material dependent). One thing that can be different with hydro frames is thin spots although the process is very controlled , and the thin spots would be very small by comparison to the surrounding material.

THE ONLY THING I have ever seen in regards to welding & cutting on hydroformed frames is the resulting reluctance to use plasma as the medium for cutting. The auto industry recommends using cold saw methods to cut on the current crop of hydroformed frames.
HOWEVER the welding process in which THEY want you to use is GMAW (aka plain old MIG) Using er70s-6 wire , and atleast a 75+% Argon 25-% Co2 mixed gas as the sheilding.

Your fourth generation frame has been put together using the welding process from head to toe. I would bet there are 2000+ inches of linear weld in that frame to include all body mounts, link mounts, etc, etc.(it takes 96 inches of weld for the 4th gen weld ons=total incl. both sides).

Although I have covered welding on frames to great detail here in the past I will have to say it again.

Our car frames are NOT heat treated!
They are made of a LOW carbon steel alloy which is SAFE to weld on.

Over the Road Trucks (OTR- aka 18 wheelers) are an exception they do use a High strength heat treated/tempered frame , and you CANNOT weld on those. Next time you look at one notice all the rivets!!!(and the label that states DONT WELD!)

Richard Stubbs

 

Thanks Richard, excellant post.

 

There's a bunch of reviews that say the 4Runner's side rails are hydroformed, with 9 crossmembers welded on.
My friend at Toyota thought it was not hydroformed, but definitely heat-treated. Fully boxed except behind the rear wheels. He is in design, not engineering so that is just his guess at the moment. Maybe next time we have lunch, he will have asked an engineer.
Anyway, don't want to cloud the slider thread with welding talk- so respectfully lets keep this about Hanna's sliders
(Pitbull, I will ask Hanna about it too)

definetly interested:
First Toy
Rocky
Timber728
Bulldog-Yota
Pitbull
Fish
Kickaha
Lawrence29
JLB
Kglueck
mac4runner
Vortec4800
hre814
Edge (?)

Tacoma version-??
MVCrash

 

I know I sound like are we there yet? are we there yet?

What's the latest on the time frames? I notice a number of people are really interested, and I think he will do well to keep it ready for further production, as more people will start wheeling their 4th Gens and require sliders. These seem like the safest bet by far, strong and nothing needs to be done to the truck ( so it can be reomoved later no prob) and easy to fit.

 

...and they are his design. As a designer, I respect where the idea came from.
No I hear ya Andries, he could start getting steady orders after this. To be honest I don't think he (nor I) knew what kind of interest there would be. Me saying, "People will love this Ken!" and people ACTUALLY willing to buy them are 2 different things

Milton, Ken and I thought heck, just post and see if anyone else is interested. All the interest is great and I'm excited about it too.

I emailed him if he has time earlier, that I would go up-- so we'll see.

 

Well I think people will buy as well. I was exactly looking for this, I wasn't thrilled in messing with my frame, welding or drilling holes, which was required for all other sliders I saw that looked decent. Add to that the little issue of XREAS and relatively new vehicles, which people dont want to mess up. I think if the product is as good as on the 80, it will be a winner. It looks really solid and well done.

SO back to interest and buying. I think the product will be great, it will be up to marketing it correctly and price point that will lead to sales. Lots of people dont know about it yet, and the price looks a bit steep, but as you said if more people buy he can look at his labor costs. I see a real need for this product in the market, so if availibility, quality product, good pricepoint, right marketing meets market interest you have a winner!!! Hope you get something out of the deal when (yes I say when) it starts flying of the shelves. Think about this the 4th Gen has only been on the market less than 2 years, and probably will be another 5 at least, most people dont wheel a new vehicle, but rather buy a secondhand one, this is the very beginning of the bell curve for the 4th Gens! I just wish other suppliers of suspension products would realize this as well.

Enough blah blah, ARE WE THERE YET???

 

All exactly what led me to Hanna. I researched all of yotatech, 4x4wire, ttora, and more. Then when I saw these on PismoJim's LC I said, "Eureka!"
This is the only one for Toyota I have ever seen.

You can write Ken at hannaquality.com and ask him "are we there yet?"

 

FirstToy,
They look great and painless for putting them on and off. Please put me down as interested. I look forward to seeing the finished product on your ride.

Thanks for posting this. Will you reach out to people via e-mail when they are available?

Thanks,
Float

 

I'll post here with all updates on my experience.
Once they are available, I guess Hanna can post in the "vendor advertising" section.

definetly interested:
First Toy
Rocky
Timber728
Bulldog-Yota
Pitbull
Fish
Kickaha
Lawrence29
JLB
Kglueck
mac4runner
Vortec4800
hre814
floatplane
Edge (?)

Tacoma version-??
MVCrash