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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 09:05 PM
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I do not notice that...
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Old Feb 3, 2012 | 05:19 AM
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Here is another item I found when I did my ADD to non ADD swap. The axle cover where the oil fill plug is was different between the two covers. The non ADD cover has a lower fill plug level then the ADD cover. I think this is becouse on the ADD axle, the oil has to get to the ADD connector, with out ADD, it is at a lower level. I did swap the cover so that the level will be right.
Hmm interesting. I'll have to keep an eye out for that too.
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Old Feb 3, 2012 | 09:22 AM
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Here is a pic I took. The cover on the right is the ADD one. note that the fill plug is a little higher.
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Old Feb 3, 2012 | 09:27 AM
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Now that I think about, not so sure that little bit of level change is going to matter.
Remember, it's pretty much the same third with the same gear set in it.
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Old Feb 3, 2012 | 06:20 PM
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No, wont matter. Just some info to pass along. The lower fill plug position helps the gear oil stay out of the long tube. Before I swapped covers, I filled the axle about 1/2 inch below the fill plug,
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Old Feb 3, 2012 | 06:52 PM
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I like the extra oil. Keeps it lubricating.
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Old Feb 5, 2012 | 04:37 PM
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now that we are mentioning it, I was able to get my diff outa MY 4runner, I could not get the front mount off, so I just undid the cover. But I want to swap the covers because the fill plug on mine that is stuck on is stripped real bad. and now that I know the covers have the fill plugs in different spots, I want the V6 cover on there. Any ideas?

Zuk shows pictures of him removing the crossmember with the cover. I would think it would be a pain in the ass to try and put that crossmember back on.

Ideas?
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Old Feb 5, 2012 | 04:51 PM
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now that we are mentioning it, I was able to get my diff outa MY 4runner, I could not get the front mount off, so I just undid the cover. But I want to swap the covers because the fill plug on mine that is stuck on is stripped real bad. and now that I know the covers have the fill plugs in different spots, I want the V6 cover on there. Any ideas?

Zuk shows pictures of him removing the crossmember with the cover. I would think it would be a pain in the ass to try and put that crossmember back on.

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Unbolt the cover from the crossmember.
A big cheater bar will help.
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Old Feb 11, 2012 | 04:20 PM
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for those that care. The shortest bolts I could find are a 12mm 1.25 pitch. 20mm thread length. That was the shortest we sold at napa, napa/ rockford part number 2802-752. I am going to use them in juntion with atleast one washer.
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Old Feb 11, 2012 | 05:49 PM
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Old Feb 11, 2012 | 10:46 PM
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The bolts from my non-add bolt right up
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Old Feb 20, 2012 | 04:21 PM
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I hope this is better than starting up a new thread. but I got everything swapped and the diff in, but I put some oil in the front diff and its leaking....

I was very meticulous with the silicone. Not too much, just a nice medium sized bead allround and under the bolt holes. I hand tightened everything, let it sit over night, then tightened em down. I used black silicone. What else can I do?

Please tell me I don't have to take the front diff out again! Is there an easier way? Can I take the cover off with the crossmember and re seal it that way?

Thanks, also does any one know the OEM part numbers for the rear driveshaft bolts and nuts? I lost four of them. edit: Also, should I pick up a tune of the red silicone from toyota? That's what was on the diffs when I took them apart

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Old Feb 20, 2012 | 04:50 PM
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Did u replace the seal
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Old Feb 20, 2012 | 05:21 PM
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yes I did. and siliconed the drivers side tube also
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Old Feb 20, 2012 | 05:32 PM
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where is it leaking from ?.. and you did add the new seal on the passenger side .. the non ADD seal
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Old Feb 20, 2012 | 06:41 PM
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no new seal on the pass side. I never took that out. It is leaking from the cover. What im mostly wondering is that I hope fully dont need to take the diff out again. that was THE hardest thing of this project. me and my brother took 4 hours to get that sucker in! Is there an easier way to reseal the front diff? I saw ZUK take the cover off with the cross member, but I think that might shift the frame and it might be a pain to get that crossmember back in. Has any body ever fixed a leaking front diff with out removing the whole thing. any good write ups? thanks guys. Im super bummed because all i had to do was bleed the brakes and connect the rear d shaft and I'll be on the road again!

Edit: and sorry i didnt mention before that it was leaking from the cover. lol

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Old Feb 20, 2012 | 06:42 PM
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try tightening the bolts up some more before you remove it .
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Old Feb 21, 2012 | 08:51 AM
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x2 see if tightening helps. otherwise, you gotta take the cover off and re-do your seal. perhaps you didn't clean the surface very well and it didn't stick, or you didn't use enough. i use the Ultra Gray RTV on my diffs.

you CAN take the cover off w/o the diff, but i'm sure it will be challenging unless you remove the crossmember. i've taken mine off, but I have an IFS brace to keep it together on the rear of the a-arms. i don't think you need to worry about your a-arms spreading apart though since you're not moving the truck - if you are worried, perhaps jack up the frame slightly to take some load off the a-arms. i wouldn't go tires off the ground, then there's a chance the arms will be too tight to get the crossmember back in (but most likely not).

4hrs to get the front diff in - that's crazy talk. i've done it 3x now (solo) and it takes less than 30 min. removing the CV studs definitely helps.
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Old May 10, 2012 | 08:24 AM
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Anyone know the size of those Torx bolts holding the ADD axle tube onto the diff? I bought a ratcheting wrench and it breaks free smashing my fingers.......

I would assume they are metric sizes?
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Old May 10, 2012 | 12:56 PM
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um...i'm fairly certain torx bolts only come in one standard sizing - they don't have SAE/Metric versions.

I got my torx and external torx driver sets from Harbor Freight specifically for these bolts and never had a problem removing or re-installing them. Sounds like you need a better ratchet if the gear inside's letting go.
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