SR5 Cluster
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I put a 1989 SR5 cluster from a 4Runner in my 1988 pickup last year. The SR5 cluster had a lot more miles than my pickup. I saw the instructions on how to open it up like above, but instead I started to do it with an electric hand drill. When I saw how long it was going to take I put the cluster under my drill press and let it run for hours. Guess I could have driven in reverse for a few years and had the same result....
When the SR5 cluster matched my pickup I stopped, and put it in.
I was told by a non Toyota mechanic that I did not need to do any DMV paper work because the replacement SR5 cluster now had the same mileage as my original cluster. I never checked with the DMV to see if he was right.
When the SR5 cluster matched my pickup I stopped, and put it in.
I was told by a non Toyota mechanic that I did not need to do any DMV paper work because the replacement SR5 cluster now had the same mileage as my original cluster. I never checked with the DMV to see if he was right.
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I just looked at my pictures from last year. When I said the SR5 cluster had a lot more miles, it was only about 4,000 miles more than the original. Not a lot of miles like I said. I thought it was more because it took so long to rollback 4,000 miles. Normal people would not have bothered on a 20 year old vehicle.
My original 1988 pickup cluster had 150,462 miles on it. The 1989 4Runner cluster had 154,885 miles on it. I have owned the 1988 since 1989 and I wanted the 4Runner numbers to match. A normal person would not care.
If you do not have a mechanical odometer then you are in the wrong place.
A speedometer cable has a square end. So does the pointy end of a nail. I first tried it with a hand electric drill. Once I realized I would have to hold the trigger down for years I switched to the drill press on the highest speed it had.
The drill press method.
The drill press method took forever for just 4,000 miles. I was expecting the drill press motor to burn out for being on for so long.
Here are both clusters together after the rollback of the 1989 SR5 cluster. They have the same mileage.
My original 1988 pickup cluster had 150,462 miles on it. The 1989 4Runner cluster had 154,885 miles on it. I have owned the 1988 since 1989 and I wanted the 4Runner numbers to match. A normal person would not care.
If you do not have a mechanical odometer then you are in the wrong place.
A speedometer cable has a square end. So does the pointy end of a nail. I first tried it with a hand electric drill. Once I realized I would have to hold the trigger down for years I switched to the drill press on the highest speed it had.
The drill press method.
The drill press method took forever for just 4,000 miles. I was expecting the drill press motor to burn out for being on for so long.
Here are both clusters together after the rollback of the 1989 SR5 cluster. They have the same mileage.
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I finally did a quick search on the Califonia DMV site. The reason is I own a Porsche with an electronic cluster and it is somewhat common to swap clusters for the higher end model cluster in order to get extra guages. A new cluster is about $1,500 so most of the swaps are done with a used cluster. For about $150 a shop can reset the mileage of the donor cluster to match the vehicle it is going into.
One of the Porsche owners swapped clusters a few years ago and the donor cluster has a lot less miles. He did not have the odometer reset. He did not do the paperwork at the time of the swap. He had smog inspections done with the original cluster and then with the donor. Mileage is reported to the DMV for a smog inspection. His problem is that a Carfax report now shows an inconsistent odometer alert.
So I got curious on the rules.
California Vehicle Code Section 28053. (a) Nothing in this article prevents the service, repair, or replacement of an odometer, if the mileage indicated thereon remains the same as before the service, repair, or replacement. If the odometer is incapable of registering the same mileage as before the service, repair, or replacement, the odometer shall be adjusted to read zero and a notice in writing shall be attached to the left doorframe of the vehicle by the person performing the service, repair, or replacement specifying the mileage prior to the service, repair or replacement of the odometer and the date on which it was serviced, repaired, or replaced.
So what I was told last year by a mechanic when I did my SR5 cluster swap is true. I did not have to do any paperwork because when I put in the SR5 cluster it had the same mileage as my original.
Another thing I learned is that when you sell a vehicle that is 10 years or older you do not have to report the mileage to the DMV.
One of the Porsche owners swapped clusters a few years ago and the donor cluster has a lot less miles. He did not have the odometer reset. He did not do the paperwork at the time of the swap. He had smog inspections done with the original cluster and then with the donor. Mileage is reported to the DMV for a smog inspection. His problem is that a Carfax report now shows an inconsistent odometer alert.
So I got curious on the rules.
California Vehicle Code Section 28053. (a) Nothing in this article prevents the service, repair, or replacement of an odometer, if the mileage indicated thereon remains the same as before the service, repair, or replacement. If the odometer is incapable of registering the same mileage as before the service, repair, or replacement, the odometer shall be adjusted to read zero and a notice in writing shall be attached to the left doorframe of the vehicle by the person performing the service, repair, or replacement specifying the mileage prior to the service, repair or replacement of the odometer and the date on which it was serviced, repaired, or replaced.
So what I was told last year by a mechanic when I did my SR5 cluster swap is true. I did not have to do any paperwork because when I put in the SR5 cluster it had the same mileage as my original.
Another thing I learned is that when you sell a vehicle that is 10 years or older you do not have to report the mileage to the DMV.
Last edited by Tool Pants; 09-23-2008 at 02:45 PM.
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