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Old Jun 27, 2012 | 06:12 PM
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Interestingly enough, GM was offering analog port fuel injection in the U.S. three years earlier as an option for Cadillacs.
Exactly what engine are you referring to?
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Old Feb 17, 2013 | 07:30 PM
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Everyone forgot, 3vzFe is almost like a whole different animal. I've been reading around here trying to decide a direction to go with our 2nd gen 4Runner. A 3vzfe out of a wrecked Camry is my new plan. Huge, broad powerband and with a not yet modified motor simply tuned a little better- 200hp. Sounds a little more stock-modified rather than custom pains from a 3.4 swap for the same, maybe, just maybe, better performance?
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Old Feb 17, 2013 | 08:33 PM
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Everyone forgot, 3vzFe is almost like a whole different animal. I've been reading around here trying to decide a direction to go with our 2nd gen 4Runner. A 3vzfe out of a wrecked Camry is my new plan. Huge, broad powerband and with a not yet modified motor simply tuned a little better- 200hp. Sounds a little more stock-modified rather than custom pains from a 3.4 swap for the same, maybe, just maybe, better performance?
good luck. 4runner has a 3VZE while the camry has a 3VZFE
no one has done the swap. the intake plenum is facing the wrong way.

3VZE- 150HP 180TQ
3VZFE- 185HP 189TQ
5VZFE- 190HP 210TQ

as you can see the 5VZFE is the better swap, been done before with tons of help and support. if you already have a 3.0, the 3.4 bolts right in, dont need anything custom. only thing you really need to do is the wiring and exhaust, both can be brought pre-made.
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Old Feb 18, 2013 | 07:52 AM
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I was reading it here somewhere about leaning the F's MAF cog and advancing the timing like we do with the E and it jumps to 200hp. I'm just trying to think outside the box, everyone has a 3.4 conversion.... Doesn't the supercharger kit eliminate the NA manifold? or we can just shorten that runner for the throttle body? When we break out of newbie status we'll try posting the first FE conversion manifold fix
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Old Feb 18, 2013 | 08:32 AM
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My bad. So the option is to cut the manifold right at the mounting surface flange, then rotate the whole thing 180°, then re-weld, so the throttle body is now in the front of the 4Runner. Requires an electric fan conv. Maybe add a hood scoop since the intake is now right up front there. But I'm up for it, just for **its and grins. I think the varible length runners might do some good on the trail.
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Old Feb 18, 2013 | 09:45 AM
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so then what are you going to do with the distributer that will now want to be part of the firewall?
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Old Feb 18, 2013 | 08:22 PM
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guess the so call custom pains of a 3.4 doesnt seem so painful anymore lol
the 5vzfe is still a newer engine than a 3vzfe
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Old Feb 19, 2013 | 11:25 AM
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If you are going to all this effort of a swap and not doing the easy 3.4 why not just go pick up a running but used 1UZ or 2UZ?

I'm going to go that route, the engines are pretty common and not too expensive. Plenty of power and newer tech.
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Old Feb 19, 2013 | 12:05 PM
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So the distributor moving to the passenger side bank, and "inside" the firewall... at least thats real info, Thank You Robertm . Not just a "you're dumb, fall in line with the same thing everyone else has" I also thought about a computer issue; Didn't Camry ONLY with a torque-converter? I have a clutch. These things are just machines, Like I previously stated: outside the box is most fun.

Thanks CDN-SMOKEJUMPER. I have heard the diesel is awsome, I'll check that option out
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Old Feb 19, 2013 | 12:18 PM
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I agree with the point smokejumper was making.

If you're going through the trouble of a swap just to be different, make it different.

The 3vzfe is so much work for no real ability to tune past a 5vz.

If you want to be different, do a cool diesel, or something that can get you far greater fuel economy or power, or both.
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Old Feb 19, 2013 | 12:19 PM
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Those aren't diesel engines. They are Toyota V8's.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_UZ_engine


I've been looking around, you can score one for under $1500 if you dig.


All kinds of power right out of the box. More than enough for a little 2nd Gen even after you put on big rubber and hang some steel off it.

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Old Feb 19, 2013 | 12:39 PM
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Oh, my bad. V8 might be interesting. Right on guys, I'm gonna do some more research. Thanks
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Old Feb 19, 2013 | 02:07 PM
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How awesome would 250hp or more be?


In the meantime though my 3.0 is running great while I save for my build.
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Old Feb 19, 2013 | 02:38 PM
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Agreed. Wouldn't it be wise to aim for pre-95? the lighter rods/pistons seem unfriendly to the trail
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Old Feb 19, 2013 | 03:14 PM
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As some of the guys have mentioned on here it all comes down to your experience with the 3vze. My personal experience was horrible. I never blew the head gasket on mine just had a bunch of different problems. Like random no starts that I could never figure out. I hated that it was hard to work on and it was completely gut less piece of crap especially with the auto tranny i had. My buddy had 2.7 4cyl in his taco and he blew the doors of mine 4Runner. After selling the 4runner i experimented with other cars and i was always negative about jeeps but did come across an xj for a price i could not say no to. IMO the 4.0l I6 is a much better powerplant than the 3vze. More power and a lot easier to work on. IMO more reliable too. After becoming a mechanic and learning a lot about cars my favorite cars became the cars that are the easiest to work on. The 3vze is not easy to work imo and i would never get another 3vze and i would never recommend the 3vze to anyone. And yes in my opinion the 3vze 3.0l V6 is the worst engine toyota put out
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Old Feb 19, 2013 | 03:18 PM
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My buddy jokes about mine being built on a Tuesday afternoon during an exceptional shift at the factory. Mine runs great and has some power.

I've geared properly for my tires and have a manual though.


She does run really quite well though. Really pleased with it. It's an old design now so it's not comparable to modern technology. It is what it is and when I have the funds saved for a swap I'll replace it but wont have anything bad to say about it.

Really good memories of where it took me actually.

She's 200km away from hitting 270,000km.

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Old Feb 20, 2013 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by CDN-SMOKEJUMPER
My buddy jokes about mine being built on a Tuesday afternoon during an exceptional shift at the factory. Mine runs great and has some power.

I've geared properly for my tires and have a manual though.


She does run really quite well though. Really pleased with it. It's an old design now so it's not comparable to modern technology. It is what it is and when I have the funds saved for a swap I'll replace it but wont have anything bad to say about it.

Really good memories of where it took me actually.

She's 200km away from hitting 270,000km.
I might have the next one built. My father purchased it brand new in 1991. It has 580 thousand km /364 miles of mixed city and long haul highway.
This motor had never been rebuilt. A few starters, watr pumps, alternators ect.
Sounds pretty damned impressive to me

It still has good power but to my surprise gets almost the same mileage as my full size gmc 2500 6.5 turbo diesel. That' parts not to cool but otherwise this motor has never left anyone stranded and is a fantastic example of a great motor.
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Old Feb 20, 2013 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by CDN-SMOKEJUMPER
Those aren't diesel engines. They are Toyota V8's.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_UZ_engine

I've been looking around, you can score one for under $1500 if you dig.

All kinds of power right out of the box. More than enough for a little 2nd Gen even after you put on big rubber and hang some steel off it.
Her in L.A., I can score a running salvage SC/LS400 WITH 1UZ and harness and ECU and whatever else for around 1000 $ from the yards, wrecked.... sell all the parts I can and keep wut I need and scrap the rest..... Some guys even break even and wind up with a smooth running entire package for no cost. 2k$ for some of them running well and still on the road..... BUT, still have to deal with CA smog refs though hahaha.
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Old Feb 20, 2013 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Hillbillyr
I might have the next one built. My father purchased it brand new in 1991. It has 580 thousand km /364 miles of mixed city and long haul highway.
This motor had never been rebuilt. A few starters, watr pumps, alternators ect.
Sounds pretty damned impressive to me

It still has good power but to my surprise gets almost the same mileage as my full size gmc 2500 6.5 turbo diesel. That' parts not to cool but otherwise this motor has never left anyone stranded and is a fantastic example of a great motor.


I love owning one of the good ones.


Chef, when I move closer to main cities again I'll do the same.

Keep doing it in fact; make some extra cash. I've already bought two wrecks why not start buying ones with more expensive parts in them right?!


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Old Feb 21, 2013 | 06:37 PM
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i have a 94. 187k
hasn't left me where i didn't want to be.
sucks on the grades, but it is what is. i don't expect 30mpg or to beat an is-F, or anyone for that matter, off the line. i got her cause at the time, i felt they were the most capable for what i wanted to do, and still view them(toyota cruisers, runners, pu) to still be FAR more capable than a lot sold today.
as far durability goes....another reason i rock yotas.
look all over the world and you see old toys still in use. hard use....machine guns/rocket launchers and 6 men in the bed, on dusty dirt roads in 137^ heat or sub-zero temps. they will take more than most can dish, and i will own mine forever.
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