Ring & Pinion Gear Options for 37" Toyo M/T tires with 5" lift..
#21
Registered User
If you're shifting into 4th now you'll be going into 3rd with 4.88's and it'll still suck. You said you're on a budget so why would you want to buy and set up two ring and pinion sets when you could buy only one? Just saying. You asked a question asking for peoples' opinion. Basically everybody here said to keep the 5.29's but you don't want to hear it. Do as you wish.
#22
Registered User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Texas
Posts: 232
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
First off quit reading between the lines no argument is started. Why do people assume because way words are touted that it's showing lol just saying I've done math. Many of others have had 4.88 with no problems and everyone here has been negative about it. I'm trying to get better gas not torque and I already had 5.29 I'm wanting to try something different cuz I got lots of power just want more fuel mileage. If you read this as arguing then you should probably set the keyboard or phone down and step outside and realize it's just a statement. Arguing is allot different but if you can't take someone else's opinion without it being considered arguing then I'm sorry you read between the lines and I'd rather avoid directing questions at you when I'm stating my opinion sheesh. That being said snobbd as much as you think you know vehicles not saying you don't or do I'm just saying I've noticed everything I've posted about one in particular being my cold air in take you doubt my knowledge when it worked just like you said it wouldn't. This would be a start of an argument but who's here for that I'm here to say one I'm not ordering two gear sets just one to give it a try before the front even gets touched. Its just this im in 5th gear all the time even at 30-40 so this in my case will help me. I was asking for ideas and stating my thoughts. If you take that asarguing please kindly remove yourself from posting on this because im not starting drama but when u read it like im trying to argue then thats all it takes for stupid texting fights lol. We are here to share opinions and thoughts don't be so sensitive lol
#23
Registered User
iTrader: (8)
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Southeast Virginia
Posts: 1,510
Likes: 0
Received 346 Likes
on
215 Posts
You're still buying 2 gear sets. If you like the 4.88, then you need to buy a 4.88 front. If you don't like the 4.88, you'll have to buy a 5.29 for the rear to replace it. You're not saving any money.
I'm glad "you've done math." You might try to practice a bit of spelling. But here's some points to consider about the gear ratios. If you go to a 4.88 ratio, you'll be doing less RPM for the same speed. If this was the only factor then you'd be good to go. But remember that you will have less torque to the wheels so you'll have to give the truck more throttle to keep the same speed. Now the amount more is not easy to numerically calculate. Maybe you can since "you've done math" but I'm guessing that it will not be in your favor to go to 4.88's.
I'm glad "you've done math." You might try to practice a bit of spelling. But here's some points to consider about the gear ratios. If you go to a 4.88 ratio, you'll be doing less RPM for the same speed. If this was the only factor then you'd be good to go. But remember that you will have less torque to the wheels so you'll have to give the truck more throttle to keep the same speed. Now the amount more is not easy to numerically calculate. Maybe you can since "you've done math" but I'm guessing that it will not be in your favor to go to 4.88's.
#24
Registered User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Texas
Posts: 232
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
You're still buying 2 gear sets. If you like the 4.88, then you need to buy a 4.88 front. If you don't like the 4.88, you'll have to buy a 5.29 for the rear to replace it. You're not saving any money.
I'm glad "you've done math." You might try to practice a bit of spelling. But here's some points to consider about the gear ratios. If you go to a 4.88 ratio, you'll be doing less RPM for the same speed. If this was the only factor then you'd be good to go. But remember that you will have less torque to the wheels so you'll have to give the truck more throttle to keep the same speed. Now the amount more is not easy to numerically calculate. Maybe you can since "you've done math" but I'm guessing that it will not be in your favor to go to 4.88's.
I'm glad "you've done math." You might try to practice a bit of spelling. But here's some points to consider about the gear ratios. If you go to a 4.88 ratio, you'll be doing less RPM for the same speed. If this was the only factor then you'd be good to go. But remember that you will have less torque to the wheels so you'll have to give the truck more throttle to keep the same speed. Now the amount more is not easy to numerically calculate. Maybe you can since "you've done math" but I'm guessing that it will not be in your favor to go to 4.88's.
#25
Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Punxsy, PA
Posts: 319
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Okay, okay, you didn't argue. Just trying to help, if you make your posts shorter and to the point, you will get more help. I'm still confused whether you have stock gears or 5.29's currently. Also, you are probably going to get flamed for only changing the rear gear set on a 4wd pickup, making it purely an asphalt pounder. Especially on Yotatech which is mainly an off road forum.
#26
Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: florida
Posts: 698
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I don't think anyone else said it yet but if you just broke a pinion with 5:29 gears won't 4:88s put even more stress on the pinion making it very likely to break again?
#27
Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Punxsy, PA
Posts: 319
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
#30
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
I have a 3RZ in my '84 pickup. Rebuilt with LCE performance Master kit. Head milled for slightly higher compression. Plus cams, etc. The power is comparable to a 3VZ. I've run with a couple and we stay dead even until I have to shift my worn out W56, so I lose time there. Anyway, I'm running 4.88s with 33's. Steel wheels and KM2s. They're not feather light wheels/tires... But my 3RZ moves everything along just fine. And my speedo is dead on according to my GPS. I can hold most any hill in 5th gear, if I wanted to. But I don't because the W56 5th gear is weak, and 4th gear is very strong.so I'll run in 4th as often as I can.
My job requires that I travel, and my truck is what I take. 70K miles since April 2012. Since I am on the highway so much, I will be staying with 4.88s with the 35" Toyos, but I should be doing 5.29 to keep it at a factory-ish feel. With you running the 37s, they are pretty heavy, at 80+lbs each, and your math isn't taking increasing tire weight into consideration. My suggestion is to do it once, do the 5.29s. If not, you are taxing everything pretty heavy by keeping it higher geared. But it's your truck...
My job requires that I travel, and my truck is what I take. 70K miles since April 2012. Since I am on the highway so much, I will be staying with 4.88s with the 35" Toyos, but I should be doing 5.29 to keep it at a factory-ish feel. With you running the 37s, they are pretty heavy, at 80+lbs each, and your math isn't taking increasing tire weight into consideration. My suggestion is to do it once, do the 5.29s. If not, you are taxing everything pretty heavy by keeping it higher geared. But it's your truck...
Last edited by rokblok; 10-08-2013 at 11:12 AM.
#31
Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Punxsy, PA
Posts: 319
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
#33
Registered User
arlindsay1992, you quoted him saying "how should I go about on using my 4x4 high/low in a pinch without screwing anything up...". I've looked back through this whole thread about 3 times trying to find that post, but have come up with nothing. He also said this:
I'm very confused right now
I'm very confused right now
Last edited by 93Xtra-Cab; 10-08-2013 at 02:19 PM.
#37
to top it off, those toyos are some of the heaviest 37" streetable tires you can get.
#38
Registered User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Texas
Posts: 232
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
The old 39.5x13.50x15 irok super swampers wee terribly heavy and yes parts and labor is high but I have all tools necessary to do everything myself. The front was never done for the 5.29 gears it had in the back. I'm trying these cuz right now is not as much of a toy that I want it to be. If it was I would do 5.29 maybe even 5.71 but it's for work and travel right now so if it helps mpg I'll do the 200 buck risk lol. I Just wanted to make sure I would still need to do the front when it's only activated when in a pinch. Also the ring with my 5.29 gears seem salvageable but it's the drive pinion that's definitely no bueno. Ive gotta share pic but mobile version of this isn't helping with it lol
Last edited by Scrussanation; 10-08-2013 at 09:06 PM.
#39
Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Punxsy, PA
Posts: 319
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
#40
Registered User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Texas
Posts: 232
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
And to add yes I know it defeats using 4x4 but yotatech isn't just a off road forum like pirate is. It's what I consider all around. I've seen tons of dd vehicles on here so just cuz I'm not getting the gears that's ideal for what I wanna use the truck for(which is off roading only) I don't have the luxury quite yet. Plan is to use 4.88 till the new work truck comes. Then go back with 5.29 or lower. Speaking of what's 5.71 feel like if your using it off road only? It's it a pretty good gear set for the tires and purpose? What's some good gear manufactures?