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Old Jun 8, 2008 | 11:41 AM
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Thumbs up Positive Review: replacment coil *springs* (pics)

1993 4runner coil *springs* replacments (to remove sagg). I ordered the Moog replacment coil *springs* online. Got them in the mail a week later (they came from new york), and got les schwab to put them in (i dont have coil compressors). When i saw the truck i was immediatly satisfied. i had les schwab give me the old ones, i wanted to see how bad they were. it turned out that the old ones were actually taller than the replacments. however when i stood on them boing boing they went. the moogs are much stronger and thicker, so hopefully they will last.

However there is a sad part to this tale... when i got home with the truck, i noticed that the drivers side was a little taller than the passenger side. I looked underneith to see that les schwab had installed the passenger side coil spring upsidedown... dededeee, how could anyone possibly do that? it wasnt even touching the grooves that its suppost to sit in! so on monday im gonna have to go down there and make em fix em...

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other than my bad experience at les schwab the coil over replacements from moog gave me at leaste 2-3 more inches in the rear end, it looks so much better, totally worth the $210 total spent.

the results:



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Old Jun 8, 2008 | 11:45 AM
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nice man sounds good man how about some pictures?
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Old Jun 8, 2008 | 11:46 AM
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les schwab had installed the passenger side coil spring backwards...

Thats jacked up...I've seen drunken one-eyed monkeys work better than those people. You are a brave man for lending them your vehicle (and possibly life)!


FYI, most autozones rent spring compressors for free
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Old Jun 8, 2008 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by dirtoyboy
Thats jacked up...I've seen drunken one-eyed monkeys work better than those people. You are a brave man for lending them your vehicle (and possibly life)!


FYI, most autozones rent spring compressors for free
yeah, theres no other place that can do em though besides 4wheelparts and thats 40 miles from my house and they were more expensive...

it rides fine though, but the right side is a little lopsided.. lol i dont notice a problem when driving though
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Old Jun 8, 2008 | 11:52 AM
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FYI, most autozones rent spring compressors for free[/QUOTE]

yeah i heard somethin about that but i've never done it before and i didnt want to loose my head
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Old Jun 8, 2008 | 12:02 PM
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I dont get it..you have coilovers on your 93?
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Old Jun 8, 2008 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Godzilla
I dont get it..you have coilovers on your 93?


yeah... all 2nd gens have coil overs in the rear

im pretty sure...
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Old Jun 8, 2008 | 12:12 PM
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A coil over is pretty much a coil, over a shock (hence coil-over), like a strut. The rears of 2nd gen 4Runners are seperate coils and shocks.
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Old Jun 8, 2008 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Godzilla
A coil over is pretty much a coil, over a shock (hence coil-over), like a strut. The rears of 2nd gen 4Runners are seperate coils and shocks.
okay, i guess im a noob and dont know what im talking about
lol
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Old Jun 8, 2008 | 06:12 PM
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Coilovers:
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Old Jun 8, 2008 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Crawdad
Coilovers:

okay, i get it... im stupid lol
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Old Jun 8, 2008 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Jackal
okay, i get it... im stupid lol
Im pretty sure the intent of the image was just to help you learn a bit by clarifying the difference. But as for the stupid part..you said it first.
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Old Jun 8, 2008 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Godzilla
Im pretty sure the intent of the image was just to help you learn a bit by clarifying the difference. But as for the stupid part..you said it first.

i just thought that they were separated as front coilovers and rear coilovers, i know that the front ones are called that but i thought that the rear ones were too even though they are different.
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Old Jun 8, 2008 | 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Jackal
i just thought that they were separated as front coilovers and rear coilovers, i know that the front ones are called that but i thought that the rear ones were too even though they are different.
On your 93 up front you have seperate shocks and torsion bars (not coil-overs). In the rear, seperate shocks and coil springs.

The "coil-overs" were introduced to the front of 4Runners in the 3rd gen (96-02).

The runner is looking good though.
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Old Jun 8, 2008 | 08:02 PM
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You don't need a compressor to install those springs. Unbolt your shocks, jack up one corner (on the frame) until the spring pops free, and slip in the new one. Given that the Moog springs are shorter than the stockers (but stiffer) they install VERY easily.

That said, it's sometimes worth spending a little more and just having it done. What happens if you break a shock bolt, or the flex line rips, or...???
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Old Jun 8, 2008 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Godzilla
On your 93 up front you have seperate shocks and torsion bars (not coil-overs). In the rear, seperate shocks and coil springs.

The "coil-overs" were introduced to the front of 4Runners in the 3rd gen (96-02).

The runner is looking good though.
now i think your calling me stupid lol... i was, and am, very aware of there being torsion bars in the front and NOT coilovers... lol the only knowledge i am missing here is the name of the coil SPRINGS in the rear
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Old Jun 8, 2008 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Noltz
You don't need a compressor to install those springs. Unbolt your shocks, jack up one corner (on the frame) until the spring pops free, and slip in the new one. Given that the Moog springs are shorter than the stockers (but stiffer) they install VERY easily.

That said, it's sometimes worth spending a little more and just having it done. What happens if you break a shock bolt, or the flex line rips, or...???
Jesus... 35's?? you must have the torsion bars up ALL the way man, lol. your cv's must be screamin

the main reason of me not doing it myself is because i didnt want to ruin anything.. lol call me paranoid.
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Old Jun 8, 2008 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Jackal
lol the only knowledge i am missing here is the name of the coil SPRINGS in the rear
they are called......coil springs!
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Old Jun 8, 2008 | 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Godzilla
they are called......coil springs!

i figured lol
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Old Jun 8, 2008 | 09:42 PM
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Jesus... 35's?? you must have the torsion bars up ALL the way man, lol. your cv's must be screamin

the main reason of me not doing it myself is because i didnt want to ruin anything.. lol call me paranoid.

Actually, I didn't touch the torsion bars. That's why I went with a body lift - I didn't want to ruin anything either. It was my Daily Driver at the time.

Remember, 2nd gen Runners without flares can run 32-33's stock.
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