Tell ya what. Its time to cut this cancer out.

 

Neither do I. The purpose of this exercise is not to bash or ban or drag names through the mud. I did it to motivate this man to make an effort to get my money back. Maybe he's not taking me seriously? Who knows, who cares. I just want whats mine.

 

I've had problems with the dude from the get-go. And I've been here awhile now. They were only magnified when he had his run as a Super Moderator. Which I'm only now realizing has come to an end(BTW when did that happen?). Cool! Now I don't have to worry about getting banned repeatedly for NOTHING by the fricken DUMBASS!!!

Anyways...knowing full well how he is as a person...this thread comes as little surprise to me.

Keep fightin' the good fight bro. You're doing the right thing here....

 

It's WabFab. Now lets wait for him to show up with his long sob story, again.

 

We're finally emailing back and forth. He keeps telling me the refund is processed, and I keep telling him I'm aware but I did not receive my refund. This looks like it could escalate quickly.....

 

I know a few guys that have his BBB rating page. Post it up, show everyone how it looks.

 

I'm gonna play devil's advocate and say that when I ordered from Wab-Fab, the transaction went pretty smooth. Shipping was slow, but seeing as what I ordered was shipped directly from Trail-gear, I can really blame him for that.

 

Just google the name. There are hundreds of threads and bad reviews.
How many does it take? I call for him to be removed ad a vendor. Its time.

 

I've never PERSONALLY dealt with the Wabbit, but all I know is that I've heard of more people having issues with him then I've heard about people dealing with NWOR... That HAS to say something.

Ask and you shall receive!

WabFab Off-Road, LLC is rated "F" on the BBB website... and NWOR is rated A+!

WabFab BBB

NWOR BBB Link

 

I've never dealt with Wab-Fab and I'm relatively new to this website, but I can bring some other industry knowledge to the subject. I work in the credit card processing world (not as bad as the IRS, right?) and it is against the card assocations (VISA, MC, and Discover) regulations to charge a customer prior to shipping. The card can be "pre-authorized" but not "captured" and closed until the product has been shipped.

A merchant that consistenly bills prior to shipping, and are reported to the card associations for doing so, can be 'black listed' from accepting credit cards if the card associations deem the behavior abusive and won't remove them from the list until the situation is rectified. This can be the death penalty for online businesses, sometimes.

Also, if you pay for something online with a credit card and are unhappy with the results, you can dispute the charge. This will take the funds back from the merchant immediately, and give them back to you. Then it's up to the merchant to prove he was in the right, instead of vice-versa and it costs the merchant money in fees, as well.

This sucks sometimes as a merchant vs. an unscrupulous customer because it can be abused, but it's in place precisely for situations like this.

Hope this helps. I'm just providing information, not taking sides.

 

When you do get your return, don't expect the full amount. . There is a 20% restocking/cancellation fee. Just so you know

 

i've dealt with him a few times none that were pleasant. hard for me to understand how someone stays in business with such poor customer service. you have to remember that he's basically a middle man and gets almost all his products from Trail Gear. some fall victim to his lower price or free shipping at times but reality is you can get the item directly from Trail Gear very quickly with about a 10% cost in price, to me id rather deal with Trail Gear directly and pay the 10% more than deal with him, and if you have a problem you can deal with Trail Gear directly, not the middle man. I bought a rear bumper from him and it took nearly 7 weeks to get it, I bought a air intake system from him and it took 6 weeks and when you get the item you can see it was shipped directly from Trail Gear. Both times I e-mailed him to see where items were i got nasty relies back and one I remember was " you want the item or not?" As a drop shipper he basically takes your money and places the order with Trail Gear. I sure he has to get the money back from Trail Gear before he does any refunds as his business isnt that big and he does in fact have an F rating which is lowest you can get with the Better Business Bureau. I dont deal with him anymore as I said every product he has you can get at Trail Gear who im not affilated with or know anyone there. Im surprised Yotatech allows him to remaim a moderator considering his business interest and his business record as that does allow him to regulate comments and an advantage to his company. Good luck getting your refund and hopefully others will learn on who to deal with....G

 

My god i agree with mudhippy. The sky is falling.
Seriously though, why is this predator allowed to victimize the member base?
I run a small business myself and would be bounced out of my industry
In a blink with a history like this.

Bbb rating is an F

So get him the F out of here.

 

Okay it's pretty obvious but I'll bite. Give Cody X3 a cigar for being the first to ID it. I'm not sure how people can run a business like this. When a customer of mine complains about something I did wrong, I fix it for free on account that it shouldn't have to be fixed in the first place. When they have an issue, I resolve it to their satisfaction. I could never dream of blowing a customer off like I have been with automated emails pertaining to over $1000 dollars worth of an order. Its asinine!

 

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I'm a welder/ fabricator for Avidoffroad, we focus primarily on Toyota's and are a vendor over on Tacomaworld...another enthusiast website forum based in much the same way YotaTech is. Avid was conceived with a request for a lightbar and meeting the demand for an almost non-existent/ hard to find item. Our following is very loyal and truthful, that's the benefit to site's/ forums like this. All it takes is one person posting up and then everyone come out of the wood work. If our customer service or response to a customer was anything like I've heard here, there wouldn't be a place for me to go work.

I normally wouldn't jump on the bandwagon but I will for this one... Only because he is a moderator on here, has (seemingly) built his business (primarily) from this forum, and has probably had a hand in setting some of the charges for what it takes to become a vendor here...(while I'm sure he doesn't pay for it him-self). Doesn't seem fare for him to have the power of advertisement here and the ability to delete negative feedback from conducting business with him.

So I'm curious moderators, what does it take to get some deleted as a vendor/ sponsor/ moderator/ super moderator? Bad business with forum members arriving from YotaTech (yes they can be tracked through the computer) to his E-commerce store front shouldn't be allowed anymore. When will enough be enough?

And Wabbit, add the @aol.com to my screen name if you want to track my business experience with you...it is only one order. Once was all it took!

 

I'd reccomend you all doing buisness with Scotty and addicted offroad his customer service is superb and for wabfab I can't stand that guy he is incredibly biased on everything and is just generally a jerk to everyone and well is way to overrated by people I dunno why he thinks he's so great. I mean he charges shipping on full SAS kits its like come on man I'm spendy almost 2k here and your gunna charge me the shipping I know addicted doesn't and the parts come straight from tg from any tg vendor so either addicted is losing money or he's profiting off charging unnecessary shipping.

 

I am glad someone else can see what happens when ordering from Him. I ordered one time and it took nearly 3 months to get my order. I never complained but it Was the first and last time I will ever use Him. I was given very sh___y service, I all but quit posting on here because of Him.
OP, I hope you get it resolved. Good luck.
Ray

 

I have already written a rather lengthy email(see below) in the recent past to Corey suggesting something like that. For other reasons(since I have never, and would never, do business with him). Namely, his abuse of power as a staff member on this site. Which also directly related to his business practices among members here.

How?

You want to talk about victimization? How about we bring back all the threads calling him out on his BS...THAT HE DELETED FOR NO OTHER REASONS THAN TO PROTECT HIS PERSONAL AND/OR BUSINESS REPUTATION!!! Then UNBAN all the members he BANNED...FOR THE EXACT SAME REASONS!!!

Here's a copy of the email I spoke of...since I can't get banned by him for posting it(if it gets me banned anyway...WTF ever).

 

I sent an email to corey last night with links to dozens of forum complaints and his bbb rating

My faith in yotatech is at stake here

Time to kill the wabbit as elmer fudd would say

 

I'd be interested to see the links my-self...would you be willing to post em' up? Either that or PM them to me?