Old Man Emu Suspension Kit Installed....
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The idea behind the OME suspensions is that they'll lift it enough you won't NEED other mods, but they still may be a good idea. Also, the HD springs you got are truly designed to constantly have that 350 or so lbs of stuff in the back that they're rated for, so if you matched the front to an empty rear, I think it may be a little higher than OME intended. Get a pic of your control arms from the front so we can see what the angle is at, it may not be as extreme as I'm picturing or even as tall as mine.
Dave, as for my cv's, I have 1 that is a stock replacement, brand new at time of purchase, not a reman, that is made by EMPI(the big air cooled VW hotrod brand), and the other one I'm running is an Autozone lifetime warranty reman. I'm not sure at this point which side has which anymore, so I can't tell you which one is more flexible, but one side is, slightly. I'd suspect the EMPI is more flexible. One day I'll just reboot the other EMPI assembly I have and replace the Autozone one, as I simply have more faith in the EMPI name.
Dave, as for my cv's, I have 1 that is a stock replacement, brand new at time of purchase, not a reman, that is made by EMPI(the big air cooled VW hotrod brand), and the other one I'm running is an Autozone lifetime warranty reman. I'm not sure at this point which side has which anymore, so I can't tell you which one is more flexible, but one side is, slightly. I'd suspect the EMPI is more flexible. One day I'll just reboot the other EMPI assembly I have and replace the Autozone one, as I simply have more faith in the EMPI name.
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will dooo
Jonny ,
will doo asap. I also want to post before and after pics too just need to figure out if i can upload pics from puter or if i have to use photobucket.
will doo asap. I also want to post before and after pics too just need to figure out if i can upload pics from puter or if i have to use photobucket.
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regarding your concern for your CV joints - if your mechanic leveled out your rig via t-bar crank, then install some BJ spacers and lower it back down a tad via the t-bars. I basically did this on my PU to match the OME rear leafs, which made it raked like yours - CV angle is just fine and no worries. If you do end up with some CV issues, most likely a lot of it will have to do with the age of them combined with a change in angle, and not because of extreme angles (unless it's really extreme - pics will help) Regardless, if they leak they would probably benefit from either a servicing and reboot, or an all out replacement so you have a trail spare.
This should keep the height, but lessen the CV angle you will have to get another alignment afterward - which is why i like the Firestone lifetime alignment (cheaper than 2 alignments from most shops and can repeat as often as you like). I chose to break in my leaf springs faster by carrying around a lot of weight and hitting up some bumpy and curvy roads to flex them out a bit - i'm sure the same applies to a 4runner.
This should keep the height, but lessen the CV angle you will have to get another alignment afterward - which is why i like the Firestone lifetime alignment (cheaper than 2 alignments from most shops and can repeat as often as you like). I chose to break in my leaf springs faster by carrying around a lot of weight and hitting up some bumpy and curvy roads to flex them out a bit - i'm sure the same applies to a 4runner.
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the HD OME springs i put on my 4runner settled a fuz but always maintained somewhat of a rake. I just loaded it back up with 100lbs of gear and never worried about it.
It was noticeably rougher till you got about 200+lbs in the rear.
It was noticeably rougher till you got about 200+lbs in the rear.
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regarding your concern for your CV joints - if your mechanic leveled out your rig via t-bar crank, then install some BJ spacers and lower it back down a tad via the t-bars. I basically did this on my PU to match the OME rear leafs, which made it raked like yours - CV angle is just fine and no worries. If you do end up with some CV issues, most likely a lot of it will have to do with the age of them combined with a change in angle, and not because of extreme angles (unless it's really extreme - pics will help) Regardless, if they leak they would probably benefit from either a servicing and reboot, or an all out replacement so you have a trail spare.
This should keep the height, but lessen the CV angle you will have to get another alignment afterward - which is why i like the Firestone lifetime alignment (cheaper than 2 alignments from most shops and can repeat as often as you like). I chose to break in my leaf springs faster by carrying around a lot of weight and hitting up some bumpy and curvy roads to flex them out a bit - i'm sure the same applies to a 4runner.
This should keep the height, but lessen the CV angle you will have to get another alignment afterward - which is why i like the Firestone lifetime alignment (cheaper than 2 alignments from most shops and can repeat as often as you like). I chose to break in my leaf springs faster by carrying around a lot of weight and hitting up some bumpy and curvy roads to flex them out a bit - i'm sure the same applies to a 4runner.
The idea behind the OME suspensions is that they'll lift it enough you won't NEED other mods, but they still may be a good idea. Also, the HD springs you got are truly designed to constantly have that 350 or so lbs of stuff in the back that they're rated for, so if you matched the front to an empty rear, I think it may be a little higher than OME intended. Get a pic of your control arms from the front so we can see what the angle is at, it may not be as extreme as I'm picturing or even as tall as mine.
Dave, as for my cv's, I have 1 that is a stock replacement, brand new at time of purchase, not a reman, that is made by EMPI(the big air cooled VW hotrod brand), and the other one I'm running is an Autozone lifetime warranty reman. I'm not sure at this point which side has which anymore, so I can't tell you which one is more flexible, but one side is, slightly. I'd suspect the EMPI is more flexible. One day I'll just reboot the other EMPI assembly I have and replace the Autozone one, as I simply have more faith in the EMPI name.
Dave, as for my cv's, I have 1 that is a stock replacement, brand new at time of purchase, not a reman, that is made by EMPI(the big air cooled VW hotrod brand), and the other one I'm running is an Autozone lifetime warranty reman. I'm not sure at this point which side has which anymore, so I can't tell you which one is more flexible, but one side is, slightly. I'd suspect the EMPI is more flexible. One day I'll just reboot the other EMPI assembly I have and replace the Autozone one, as I simply have more faith in the EMPI name.
Daved,
My 4Runner rides awesome now, I do not have ball joint spacers installed.I am considering it. Right now the 4Runner (1995 SR5 4x4) is sitting almost level with a lil more on the Tbars.
I too am concerned about the CV joint issues. I had installed new CV 's about three years ago. I don't fancy having to replace them regularly.My understanding after two years of reading posts on this forum as well as a few other Toyota and 4x4 forums was that you didn't need to do anything with the Old Man Emu {OME} suspension lift replacement.
Now some guys are saying i need to do manual hubs? And i will still have CV issues .Really really confused. I would rather have money for a replacement rear bumper from Tactical Auto Group with the swing out tire carrier an a hi lift jack, and also some Herculiner for the wheel wells and and the body, maybe some great driving/fog lights sincs i aquired two OEM Toyota light swiches.
This is my daily driver and my flyfishing/hunting rig as well.
My 4Runner rides awesome now, I do not have ball joint spacers installed.I am considering it. Right now the 4Runner (1995 SR5 4x4) is sitting almost level with a lil more on the Tbars.
I too am concerned about the CV joint issues. I had installed new CV 's about three years ago. I don't fancy having to replace them regularly.My understanding after two years of reading posts on this forum as well as a few other Toyota and 4x4 forums was that you didn't need to do anything with the Old Man Emu {OME} suspension lift replacement.
Now some guys are saying i need to do manual hubs? And i will still have CV issues .Really really confused. I would rather have money for a replacement rear bumper from Tactical Auto Group with the swing out tire carrier an a hi lift jack, and also some Herculiner for the wheel wells and and the body, maybe some great driving/fog lights sincs i aquired two OEM Toyota light swiches.
This is my daily driver and my flyfishing/hunting rig as well.
I'm gonna have to check out that bumper you mentioned. As for a good set of driving lights...sure you can spend bukoo bucks but for the money, a set of Hella 500's will do the job. Check out this link. One of many where you can buy from....
And pics would be appreciated.
So I would assume that by everyone using OME coils, you guys all recommend them??? That's what I thought. Keep posting guys.
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This was before I did the Old Man Emu suspension replacement lift with the heavy options. The Old Man Emu Suspension Heavy Package included the heavy duty coil springs {rear},rear shocks,front shocks, New heavier Torsion bars,and the steering stabilizer.
This was before I did the Old Man Emu suspension replacement lift with the heavy options. The Old Man Emu Suspension Heavy Package included the heavy duty coil springs {rear},rear shocks,front shocks, New heavier Torsion bars,and the steering stabilizer.
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After the the whole lift was installed
This is after the whole lift was completed December 13th, 2012. OLD MAN EMU Rear coil springs heavy duty ,with a pair of Airlift 1000 airbags installed inside the springs , OME rear shocks , OME front shocks, OME steering stabilizer,OME torsion bars.
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Rear pics of OME Springs Shocks and Airlift 1000 bags
this is the Driver's side rear view
this is the passenger's side rear view
this is the passenger's side rear view
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Let me know what you think, airbags are at 5 lbs minimum pressure until i am pulling a load or carrying more weight.
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I think it looks real good. You take any before and after measurements at all? It looks like the front is a little higher and the rear is, well....obvious. The rear wheel well line is lower than the front giving the appearance that the rear is lower at times when it is not. I think the truck there looks fairly level. But your panhard rod needs to be dropped back down to level it. Go here to see good info and buy a drop bracket for it. If you want to eliminate your LSPV in the rear with it's rod attached to the axle, it's not that difficult. I did it to my 88 and I will do it to my 94 when I do the rear coils and rebuild the rear brakes. You put a manual proportioning valve under the hood by the master cylinder and plug the return line from the rear brakes. Not that hard.
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I just installed the 1.5 inch BJ spacers...in the kit I got the sway bar and diff drop kits, which brought them down 1 inch to make it ride like stock. I have a zuk mod in the rear (rear TJ coil springs), which gave it 2.25 inches of lift...with that and the 1.5 inch BJ spacers up front, it sits perfectly level (keeping in mind the rear sagged a little prior). I also got OME N98 shocks up front with the N94's in the rear. Truck rides amazing.
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