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Old Apr 28, 2010 | 05:21 PM
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If it makes you feel any better, your post was my deciding factor NOT to go through OER.

I ordered my Sunwest motor this morning =)

I assume you meant the OP's problem and not my extremely slow rebuild...
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Old Apr 28, 2010 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by A.Wilson013
If it makes you feel any better, your post was my deciding factor NOT to go through OER.

I ordered my Sunwest motor this morning =)
It makes me feel a little better lol.............

I do have to say though OER has been helpful through all of this



92 thanks for the pics but in my case the chain has been rotated unknown times so the bright link does not line up automatically........

can anyone tell me how to check for EXACT TDC without pulling the timing cover? It would be really hard to tell if it's one tooth off right? Would the timing bounce around?
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Old Apr 28, 2010 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by PirateMcgee
It makes me feel a little better lol.............

I do have to say though OER has been helpful through all of this



92 thanks for the pics but in my case the chain has been rotated unknown times so the bright link does not line up automatically........

can anyone tell me how to check for EXACT TDC without pulling the timing cover? It would be really hard to tell if it's one tooth off right? Would the timing bounce around?

yes..but....in getting it to TDC like i said, you should be able to tell if and how much you are off

orient harmonic balancer to "0", pull plug #1 see if piston is all the way up or all the way down...this should tell you if #1 is at TDC or directly opposite (i beleive) and see where your came gera / mark and bright link are oriented when you know you are at TDC
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Old May 1, 2010 | 12:29 PM
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GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR the thing runs off still. I'm so sick of this thing. Balancer at 0, cam dowel at 12 and the engine vibrates enough to feel in the cab. I don't know what to do......anyone wanna buy a 4runner?
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Old May 1, 2010 | 01:08 PM
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22R's are positive interference...
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Old May 1, 2010 | 01:14 PM
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GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR the thing runs off still. I'm so sick of this thing. Balancer at 0, cam dowel at 12 and the engine vibrates enough to feel in the cab. I don't know what to do......anyone wanna buy a 4runner?

Ok, bout the only thing you can do now is make sure the dist. is in correct...

B/c the mark for TDC, is the same exact one for BTDC.

Put the balancer at 0 and the cam at 12:00. Now you want to make sure the dist. rotor is pointing straight at the #1 plug on the cap and not #4.
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Old May 1, 2010 | 01:15 PM
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what do you mean by "positive" interference? I understand the interference part but not the positive part.
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Old May 1, 2010 | 01:16 PM
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I have a timing light........

the dist timing is dead on......5*btdc with the jumper in place.
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Old May 1, 2010 | 01:17 PM
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I was always told there was positive and negative...

Positive, valves will hit...

Negative, no... But you can machine a head down on some cars where they will...
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Old May 1, 2010 | 01:18 PM
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self duh! Check the compression...
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Old May 1, 2010 | 01:56 PM
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if you are able to time it then the timing is not the issue, i would do the compression check, it could be something else giving you the bad idle problem, mine was a bad or sticking egr valve.
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Old May 1, 2010 | 02:09 PM
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got the compression numbers..........not good

#1 - 125
#2 - 0!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#3 - 75
#4 - 125
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Old May 1, 2010 | 02:22 PM
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i would say thats not good at all, didnt you just get this motor back??
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Old May 1, 2010 | 02:33 PM
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Oh darn. Bent valves anyone?
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Old May 1, 2010 | 02:39 PM
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You could do a leakdown, or even a poor man's leakdown test if you wanted to make sure before you pull the head.

That sucks man, I'm sorry to hear such issues.
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Old May 1, 2010 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by c0ugar69
i would say thats not good at all, didnt you just get this motor back??
Yes and it was due to the valve seat/guide falling out on #4 intake......not my fault

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Oh darn. Bent valves anyone?
Dunno all the valves seem to be moving up and down fine

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You could do a leakdown, or even a poor man's leakdown test if you wanted to make sure before you pull the head.

That sucks man, I'm sorry to hear such issues.
and that would be done how?

ughhhhh I'm burnt out
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Old May 1, 2010 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by PirateMcgee
and that would be done how?

ughhhhh I'm burnt out

By removing the head, replacing the valves and reinstalling the head...


And come on guy, nothing in life is free. No machine lasts forever. You just pulled a bad straw is all... Repair it and move on. Or buy a newer piece of junk compared to that truck and make payments and pay higher collision insurance for the next 7 years?

That's another option

B/c you WILL NOT find a better 4cyl, 4WD truck than the one you're driving.

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Old May 1, 2010 | 02:59 PM
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you realize that I just bought this engine NEW last year right and it has less than 9k miles and this is the second major issue? Don't give me the nothing in life is free speech....I work my butt off, go to school full time, and do volunteer work. I am broke, I spent 2k on a new engine + a bunch of new other parts last year. I would expect something to last without major issues a little longer than that. I'm getting sick of fixing other peoples mistakes.

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Old May 1, 2010 | 03:03 PM
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From: Nashville TN. I can help you if you're close BUT NOBODY CAN HELP YOU IF YOU DON'T FILL YOUR LOCATION IN!
It wasn't a jab at you... It was a put-it-in-perspective to you...

The "Hey, I thought I bought a Toyota?" thread and the mentality some guys have put's me off.. "I know, I'll buy an old used vehicle and expect trouble free forever out of it!"


I'd (of course) take the engine back to them, but if they gave me grief, it's not worth it and I'd just DIY repair it...

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Old May 1, 2010 | 03:09 PM
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the point is I do not have time to be pulling and shipping engines every few months plus it costs me money/time that I do not have.....every time I have to ship an engine it means several days of work by myself, weeks without the engine, putting off class and other important things, several oil filters, several gallons of oil, coolant, etc etc
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