86blue4runner

hey guys
well i think its about time to either rebuild the 22RE or do a swap. I need yalls help on helping me decide which. If i do get the 22RE rebuilt i want to have some work done to it like having it bored or stroked. So in yalls mind which would be the better way to go, im trying to compare the difficulty of each and the price differences. Also if i did do a full swap, what we be the best motor to run with? im thinking the 3.4, or should i look into something bigger, like a 305 chevy? or possibly a 1.8 liter turbo diesel out of a VW jetta??

thanks for any help yall

annoyingrob

IMO, the 22R, while being a very reliable motor, is ancient design wise. For the same amount of money, you could rebuild a newer motor, and make much more power.

If you want a simple swap, a newer 2RZ or 3RZ are almost bolt-in mechanically.

A 305 would bea lot more power, but it's also going to start breaking stuff. How far do you want to go with this truck, and what are your goals?

86blue4runner

well heres the deal. i have narrowed it down to either rebuilding the current motor, or swapping in a 3.4. So my question to yall is wich one would be cheaper?? and by the way if i keep the 22RE it will get bored.

thanks for all the help.

Jay351

I think a supra motor would be easier then the 3.4L since you are starting with a 4cyl drivetrain

fillsrunner4

chevy 4.3 is cheaper and more powerful than a 3.4. My vote is the 4.3. great motor tons of aftermarket and reliable. Just another option and a very popular swap. Oh and no 305's

fillsrunner4

or that one

86blue4runner

thanks for the help. are there any write ups or articles out there on this swap? also how much would it cost?

fillsrunner4

funny you should mention...

At the bottom of my sig is the two links for motor swaps and custom fab stuff. On on a 3.4 swap and the other on my current 4.3 build

Theres also an entire section devoted to swaps here on YT under forums

86blue4runner

nevermind i had forgoten you had done this swap youself. so about how much total did you spend on the motor, and computer/wiring? also how difficult was the swap?

fillsrunner4

Cost and time is undetermained as I dont want to look back at my receipts

Really cant say anymore than a ball park range of about 2-5k all really depends what you want out of it, were you get the motor, parts, time, skills... the list goes on. Check out AA (advance adapters) NW offroad and downey offroad. All have some good info and kits to look at.

fillsrunner4

swaps very easy. the wiring I havent done yet for the 4.3 but its about a 6wire hookup so really not to difficult. Its american very simple easy to work on and the electronics arent like the toyotas

Wile E. Toyote

every time i see a gm motor in a toyota, it makes me hurt a little.

fillsrunner4

why? cause you cant keep up?

Dan.3

WOW!!!! I think I did my 3.4 swap for less than 3k. 5k into a 4.3 swap is definitely not worth it. Complete waste of money. You should be able to find a complete 4.3 drivetrain for about $300 easy with about 50k on it. Junkyard practically give those away.

Not to burst your bubble, but you wont be able to keep up when your broken down on the trail with the rest of the domestics


For $300 its hard to pass up a 4.3 especially the newer vortec motors. They arent to bad as long as you keep up on the maintance. My parents had a 96 safari with the 4.3 and it has some pick up. For some reason thought the new 4.3 did have the pick up like me parents. If I was on a tight budget I would have put in a 4.3 or a very mild 350 but I wasnt so I did the 3.4. I spend a little more for reliability since i drive my truck to the trails.

Ron's 85

definetly no 305's. i pulled one out of my runner after i blew the valvetrain. what is your horror story fillsrunner4???? i like my 350/350 combo, but when i do it again im gunna go 4.3 fueli and 5 speed toyota tranny.

fillsrunner4

K

Have fun with the two week wait at the stealership when a sensor goes bad and your SOL. Ill be at schucks but back within the hour

fillsrunner4

no stories with 305... just much better options out there

Ron's 85

i bought my runner thinking, sweet v8 but the 305 two bolt main was not cut out to run a gear drive on a stock top end.

my 350 4 bolt main with truck heads and extreme 4x4 cam is working out great. i got about 1100 miles on her now. she broke in nicely.

fillsrunner4

I bet thats fun as hell.

Once thought about a 350 and will most likely have one, one day. If I build another rig someday definetly will have a V8. I have a 350 in my DD and love it

T-1000

My little bro has an '88 GMC half-ton with a 350...I want to rebuild it one day...Maybe put a solid axle in front, different trans...I bet the rebuild kits are cheap as heck too.

If you want to go the hard/expensive route, you could swap in a 1UZ like I'm planning...

BTW, the 2LT-E diesel bolts in...Fairly simple wiring too.

Check it out.

http://forum.ih8mud.com/79-95-toyota...onversion.html