MUDN4R

Is there any site that has 3.0 parts? i need more POWER!!!! my truck feels sluggish . I have put a flowmaster muffler and gutted the cat, also jigsawed the lower part on the stock intake for more air flow!! w/ a K&N Filter but still no noticeable changes.... I NEED HELP!!!!!

Elton

you anit goin to get any more power thats why its called a 3.slow

CoedNaked

Has anyone actually tried advancing the timing and then running high octane (91+) gas to make up for the pinging? Or does the engine automatically account for this with the anti-knock sensor?

MUDN4R

man.. it is slow but the truck can go threw anything... i just want alittle more power whats an easy swap motor?? 22re or 22r or a 3.4 ??? could a 4 banger handle the 4Runner?

motoracer47

im gona find out.

Bumpin' Yota

better than the 3vze? no Ya gotta remember that the 3vze makes more torque at 1200 rpm than the 22re/rte/whatever at its peak.

pay no heed to the nay sayers. 3.0s CAN be made to move...mine does

anyhoo a 3.4 swap would work well, or just tune into the several threads on here about getting the 3.0 more power.

NC-B17A

MUDN4R gutting your cat is not a way to make power. You just opened up a large void in the middle of your exhaust & killed your flow. Get a testpipe or a highflow cat with the same I.D. as the rest of your exhaust.

89macrunner

haha bumpin' i think my runner is quick also..compared to what i used to be from stock ive noticed a huge increase in power.

I have..
Toybox fab ISR pipe (modded)
Custom 2" exhaust w\glasspack muffler and stock tailpipe
modded airbox

another thing to concider is that im currently running 225's..but i have 4.56 gears...so acceleration for me is going to be a little bit faster but, when i get my 32's soonish im sure i will feel change in accleartion but will see improved gas mileage

and remeber im at about 121k miles right now and im still running an orignal 02 sensor and PCV valve. (yea yea im getting around to it...someday)

in summer i get about 15-16 mpg with heavyish driving and durring winter i get about 12-13 mpg because of winter gas and more frequent 4wd use.

AZrocktoy

iTrader: (1)

Look into ignition systems. I put a jacobs ignition in mine and it gave me more power. Also, electric fans will free up a little. Depending where you are located, you may hardly ever use the electric fan except for when sitting still for a long time.

NRM

going along with what he said...you're actually gonna lose torque after gutting your cat. i foolishly did this last summer and definitely only got negative results, plus it gives it a dirty, gargling sound. a high flow cat with new muffler and pipe is really the only way of getting more out of the exhaust. headers are another option, and will give you a little more pickup, but again you're gonna lose torque going that way too...i've just learned to deal with it until i can afford the 3.4 swap

panhead

has anybody tried the turbonator thats been advertised to put inline with your tb?

Memphis4X4

I hope not...... :pat:

phorensic

I have. 15degrees BTDC with TE1 and E1 jumped. 89 octane. REALLY wakes it up. Search for my name and look for a thread named "3vze timing revisited" or something like that.

Toysrme

Yep. Aslong as you don't go past where ignition timing is benifitial, you can bump the entire powerband down a couple, to a few hundred rpm.
Throttle responce also increases.

Oh my god, you guys compairing the old i4's to any of the v6's LoL!

It's not only a pretty dumb comparison, but it's annoyingly not even in the same ballpark...

From LC's site Stock 22r-e VS fully built 22r-e


Here
22R-E 1983-86 105bhp@4800rpm 137ft-lb@2800rpm
22R-E 1990+ 112bhp@4600rpm 142ft-lb@3400rpm
22R-E 1990+ 108bhp@5000rpm 138ft-lb@3400rpm


VS stock 3vz-e:


Here
3VZ-E 1990 150bhp@4800rpm 180ft-lb@3400rpm


Here's an idea, those 22r-e's are strapped on an engine dyno, and not installed in the truck, on a chassie dyno.
The 3vz-e just owned them both. It's an AFM cog adjustment & distributor adjustment away from making the LC "built" 22r-e's peak horsepower at the WHEELS.

ROTFLMAO!




Sheesh... You guys go too far with the power compairisons.

Weasy2k

There are tons of these 3.0 mod threads starting...lots of work is going on in the backround for these engines....just wait and see really
I start on the 3vz-e development coming really soon. I got my smt6's in so i can play with one on this truck

89macrunner

funny huge aftermarket support for these motors is hapening 20years after they were first released

Toysrme

Yes, but consider if it wasn't american, before the internet, there was no US aftermarket support for any import.

suprathepeg

There's more power in that brick. I think a lot of people think they suck cause many of them are in heavy (IIRC 2.5+ton) Runners with autos. I think 180 hp out if it with a much better powerband is a real good goal.

Epic Ed

MUD -- yer new around her, ain't ya?

Weasy2k

Yep Yep!

Couldnt agree more