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Old May 16, 2007 | 02:40 PM
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Thanks for the info on the ADD hubs, but any input on my first post as to the random "ka thud" like a pot hole. Slight whiring noise just before it happens...in unison with my speed, and some reley sounding clicks from the lower side of the steering colume.
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Old May 16, 2007 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by tc
Yeah, I keep mine locked in the winter.
I want to switch over to manual hubs for the better MPG and durability but often in the winter I need to kick it into 4WD immediatly on the icey highway or snowy backroads, is it ok to keep them locked for long periods of time while switching in and out of 4WD??
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Old May 16, 2007 | 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Brad.
I want to switch over to manual hubs for the better MPG and durability but often in the winter I need to kick it into 4WD immediatly on the icey highway or snowy backroads, is it ok to keep them locked for long periods of time while switching in and out of 4WD??
Why of course it's ok to keep 'em locked.
What's the difference between keeping them locked and ADD.
Answer, no differnce.

Now, DO NOT expect any difference in milage.
The vast, vast, vast majority of people who add manual hubs see no milage difference and, I believe that very rare that think they do see a difference either have something else going on with the vehicle or simply are wrong.
Why would you expect a difference in milage, and please do say because less things turning.






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Old May 16, 2007 | 09:01 PM
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I heard they make the steering feel a little lighter. I will find out all these things when I finally install mine Or... when somone else installs mine for me ... I really need to buy a torque wrench
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Old May 16, 2007 | 09:16 PM
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newb question. wtf is "CV?"
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Old May 16, 2007 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Jay351
I heard they make the steering feel a little lighter. I will find out all these things when I finally install mine Or... when somone else installs mine for me ... I really need to buy a torque wrench
'Ya heard wrong.
Why would that make any difference in the steering ?




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Old May 16, 2007 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 2WDoffroadx
newb question. wtf is "CV?"
It's the joints that are in the front axles, two joints per axle.



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Old May 16, 2007 | 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by FredTJ
'Ya heard wrong.
Why would that make any difference in the steering ?




Fred

Since the cv's are no longer turning the steering feels lighter.. or so I was told.. if you kinda think about it, it makes a little sence..
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Old May 17, 2007 | 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by KevinInSac
So then with ADD's, the CVs do spin..? Sorry, I'm still learning, and I'm buying a truck tomorrow with non-manual hubs. I want to know what I'm getting.

EDIT: I checked Downey's site, and they said with ADD, the CVs do spin. I'll probably be replacing those at some point in the near future.

I just recently learned myself. ADD = "live" hubs.
http://rubicon.off-road.com/toyota/tech/add/
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Old May 17, 2007 | 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by 2WDoffroadx
newb question. wtf is "CV?"
Constant Velocity joint.
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Old May 17, 2007 | 03:55 AM
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Wow, you guys have hijacked the hell out of this thread!

In answer to the original question; it soulds like your electronic switch on the front diff may have some issues.
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Old May 17, 2007 | 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by mt_goat
Toyota OEM (Aisin) are the best. I noticed no change in power or MPG.

agreed...




one nice thing with MLHs is that ability to now have 2Lo.
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Old May 17, 2007 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Jay351
Since the cv's are no longer turning the steering feels lighter.. or so I was told.. if you kinda think about it, it makes a little sence..
You were told wrongly.
Makes no difference at all and I don't see how one could think that it would





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Old May 17, 2007 | 03:25 PM
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shows how much I know
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Old May 18, 2007 | 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by FredTJ
You were told wrongly.
Makes no difference at all and I don't see how one could think that it would


Fred

I replaced my stock hubs with Aisins and it frees up the steering feel CONSIDERABLY. Makes it feel much lighter and less like a 4x4.
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Old May 18, 2007 | 12:59 AM
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manually locking Aisin front hubs... 'nuff said.

Aftermarket is okay if you get the right product, but why not keep it in the house, if you catch my drift?
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Old May 18, 2007 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by TNRabbit

I replaced my stock hubs with Aisins and it frees up the steering feel CONSIDERABLY. Makes it feel much lighter and less like a 4x4.
Then you have/had something else going on, like locked in 4wd hi all the time.
You'll notice no difference in steering (when in 2dw) with the hubs locked vs with the hubs unlocked.
Why would anyone expect otherwise ?



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Old May 18, 2007 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by TNRabbit
Wow, you guys have hijacked the hell out of this thread!

In answer to the original question; it soulds like your electronic switch on the front diff may have some issues.
Hey, it's been an informative hijack atleast... It's given me some ideas for troubleshooting my 4wd issues.

( Major hijack coming....diversionary tactics.. )
What electronic switch are you referring to?...if you wouldn't mind sharing a little here. https://www.yotatech.com/forums/show...&highlight=4wd
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