So I know we're on the same page.....

What I'm calling the hangers are the mounting points the shackles bolt to....the mount on the frame. ???

 

I agree with this about using OME shocks. I've had two OME systems - My old jeep got OME shocks and springs, but my 4runner only got OME springs with tokico shocks. The full OME system rode so smooth I couldn't believe it. My current OME/tokico setup is stiff compared to what some guys are talking about with their full OME setup. I will also be heading to OME shocks when budget allows. The OME suspension is not designed as a lift (old news, I know), but it has heavier spring packs to improve performance, which they designed the shock for. Using a stock shock on heavier springs will result in a stiffer ride.

 

I think the stance of your 4runner is great! i have never been a fan of the saggy butt syndrome. i personally prefer it to be level or slightly tilting forward.

i initially got around 3" with my OME leafs in back. i also splurged and got OME shocks all the way around. Definitely get the shocks that were made for their system. Ended up settling the springs with a truckload of compost from the dump. Now they are around 2" or so. I have no complaints regarding the ride - which is better than stock IMO. With BJ spacers up front, I'd say it's now spot on!

 

mounting points on frame are stock

 

I think I am going to try OME shocks , N98 front and N94 rear. balljoint spacers up front and relax the torsion bar

 

am i stupid or are the rear springs in backwards.

 

I am sure the springs are installed correctly

 

try new shocks. i like the rancho, they are adjustable. what do you have your tire pressure at?

 

tire pres 34psi I have tried less

 

i just said that because you shackle angle looks like its off a bit and if those springs are made for your truck then that should not be like that.

 

It's only because of the high arch on the leaf pack that the shackle is at that angle. From all appearances in the pic, they are installed correctly. If the leafs were designed too long, though, one would only have to measure and compare the length to stock leafs to verify.

 

63" chevy spring swap. Shocks that arn't valved harsh.

 

I would say the shackle angle is wrong. A 90 degree angle ( what yours looks like in the pic) is going to ride harsh. The shackle should be at 25+ degrees for a smooth ride. Edit to add...You also will not have any droop with that angle.

 

this is kind of a stupid question, but was your truck jacked up when you took this pic?

x2 on the topic of having a bad shackle angle. (if your truck is sitting on the ground in that pic.)

ttyl

 

Truck is not on a jack. I did measure the length of the leafs and compared to my old set they are the same . Is there a way to change this angle???

 

Only rewelding the shackle hangers or flattening the springs out more will improve the angle. My 85 is still just sitting on jackstands, but I have my rear OME springs installed & I'm worried because the shackles are verticle. I have the top off and interior gutted so it's really light, but yours is making me worry more. I know you've got some miles on them, maybe they just need another 6 months. I plan to, as a last resort, try swapping a couple leafs out my my old spring pack in. That pic is after you removed a leaf? Wow.

Did you perhaps over tighten the shackle bolts? When you jack up one side of the axle does it flex well?

 

The shackle angle looks acceptable to me- it looks to be about 10 degrees from vertical towards the rear.
What needs to be checked is that if at full droop (jack the body up til the wheel leaves the ground) the shackle doesn't rotate forward and up and let the spring come to the frame when the spring is re-compressed. As long as the wheel travel doesn't let the shackles move up to the frame, it's okay.
The shackle is at an angle that will allow the spring to flatten and grow when compressed so it shouldn't be affecting the ride.

 

I have to agree with abe. The shackle angle shouldn't be affecting the ride. It's a moving part that offers relatively little resistance.

Just an idea. Pull the shocks off and see how much those are affecting the ride. Of course, you're going to have body roll with them off, but you'll atleast get an idea if softer shocks will do the trick.

 

Shackle angle effects the ride. 20-25 degree minimum. Been there.

 

Would you mind explaining that one a litte further?

I really can't see how because the springs on his truck are not sitting as high as they are because of the shackle angle. The shackle is at that angle because of the springs. You follow? IOW, the shackles aren't causitive in the situation. So, I really don't believe the ride is the fault of the shackles. Of course, I'm willing to be proved wrongo~!