Hey man.. i wrote ya' back, it should be in your Yahoo email account.

 

As usual in the internet world some one always know more than you
All I know is Yes I did get a cam and over sized valves and a Crane multi spark eg. and header and couldn't see just running the standard ecu. I don't have access to a dyno, but I do believe I can tell when the JET Chip is kicking it up a notch . One guy said "their a waste of money" BUt he suggests something that costs even more?

One question will it hold up yes and if it doesn't they have a life time warranty
One guy says their a "rip off" they only have 10 min and 30$ worth of parts sooo a razor blade is penny lets see you go make one from scratch!? They make a produce and ask a price according to "what the market will bare". I assume you took economics in college?
For the average guy "not someone with a dyno in his basement it IS a good deal so saith I

^ and thats funny too the man "with all the answers" can't get to all the answers....guess thats why JET does fill a nitch in the market haha

 

what?

That message is so full of innuendo and missing so much punctuation I can't tell who you're making fun of.


Now, if you had mentioned back in message #2 that you were running cams and valves then it would have set a different playing field.

Making a razor blade isn't that hard btw, and when you're talking about $400 to blast a chip versus $500 to get 10 times the amount of control over your engine - ESPECIALLY if you're running high duration cams and large valves - it's a no brainer.

Glad you enjoyed blowing that 4 bills.... You could have had a LOT more.

 

I totally buy this over the "adds more fuel" theory.
Typically adding more fuel to a stoich mixture will result in a loss of power.

Ignition advance can be accomplished by adding more base timing. It does impact the rest of the timing map, but normally that's OK.


If they sold a programmer for $500 or provided the data to interface with an EPROM or something like that, I'd be all over it. A generic change for $500... There are much better ways to spend money.


I haven't seen a successful SMT6 integration with a toyota 22RE. I know the SMT6 is sold as working with the 22re/22rte, but try and find one that's gone well. Jeff Mosk (http://www.well.com/~mosk/) had one for a while, as did Harry Wagner (http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/toystaff/harrybio.html)


I haven't read anything about the Split Second FTC1.

Fuel modifications are really unnecessary until you start doing some sigificant mods: strokers, signficant port work, big cams, etc.

 

huh... that's SOOOOOO weird, the box isn't that magical. There's a lot of documentation here on YT (mostly from me) about power issues (in terms of DC power, not engine power) with the SMT5, but those got worked out in the SMT6.


It interfaces basically the same way with the same objective, but is a less capable box when it comes to tuning.


Yeup, I fully agree. I ran an SMT5 for a year or so before i did much else to my truck. It helped a bit in terms of letting me tweak in some advance, but of course it REALLY showed it's worth when I started into all the fun in my sig.

 

Midi, do you have a write up on using the SMT5? I'd love to be able to send people to a write up on a piggy back that has worked well.

My understanding (limited) of issues with the SMT6 come up because of not standard voltages at the AFM. Again, I've never used the SMT6 - I'm just going by what has been reported by others. I know that the guys that try to tweek/modify the AFM often run into drivablity issues.

 

The "Official" SMT thread here on YT is here:

https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f2/perfect-power-smt-piggyback-controller-56220/

There used to be another one, but it got unwieldy to deal with - it was over 60 pages long.

There's no real write-up per se' in there, the connection will be different based on the vehicle, but basically you're looking for power, MAF/MAP/AFM (or TPS) wires, crank/cam position, and O2.


hmm.. interesting. I won't pretend to know about anything other than the 5VZFE, but I know the SMT5 REALLY well and the SMT6 pretty well. There's a PP dealer here on the forum that may be able to be more help, and PP themselves check in from time-to-time.

I'd be happy to help any way I can...

 

If you're interested, just let us know....YT.com members never pay full price.

Jet is a quality company with a 40 year history in the industry. There's plenty of competition in the computer tuning industry, so if their stuff was crap, they wouldn't be alive and thriving like they are.

Talk to you all soon,

John

 

if your looking for more, then why not try an apexi S-AFC? It doesn'tt do timing, but it does allow you to change the fueling up. what you could do is install a larger injector (not too big, but for example lets say theya re 240cc, install some 310cc injectors) and use it to adjust it out. You cannot "ADD" fuel you can only take it away with the s-afc, but it works well and you can get them on ebay all day long for under $200.

 

so is the only way to get a noticible power gain in a 3-VZE is to get performance headers, bigger exaust, and either a coldair intake or a snorkel? i was thinking of JET to, but there where some issues i have with people other than TOYOTA trained people playing with my ECU. Anyway, i would like to know what is the best way to get a power gain. oh and im no good with computers, so a prgrammable chip thingy or anything programable, unless i was told move for move how to make it better, i would probabl mess up my ECU or engine im sure! lol

 

I have one on a 95 2.4l truck when it was installed the only mod on the truck was a jet hot header .The chip made a bigger diffrence than the header did .Like most toyota owners know 5th gear is really useless without some type of mod I could shift in to 5th gear at 45 miles an hour and excelerate with the chip where before I needed to be running 75 or 80 .You still will loose speed on the highway climbing tall hills but it made more power than the header did and when. I start my 4runner I will buy as well .Buy another computer out of a junkyard that way there is no down time on your ride while it is getting programed I payed 100 dollars for a spare computer and carry it in the tol box as a back up. When I bought the truck it did not have the header so I know how the truck drove before and after . I had an 82 toyota that had a headman header a shorty when I went to a long flow header the power diffrence was like night and day that is what adding the chip was like.

 

I have no faith in these things for the 22RE.
Most of what I read in the old days when I was into 5.0L Mustangs was that these chips provided a little timing advance, something you can do yourself anyway...
They could screw with your mixture, but under cruise you're going to adjust based on the narrowband output anyway. Adding fuel doesn't produce more power in most cases, although running leaner can...

Never seen a dyno run.. If they provide one, I might believe in the black magic..