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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by fillsrunner4
Im not seeing any leaf springs in that pic. As for if its true he has leafs then yes get rid of all that other crap aspecialy that coil shock. i couldnt amagine that thing would have any flex like that.
Not the best shot, but I DO have leafs back there as well.
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by AxleIke
Check out his other thread with the LSPV. That is how I noticed it was so funky.
Ya you arent kiding wow. Do you know what the previos owner was doing with this truck. You said it was a show truck? ive never seen something like this before but ya youl get a ton of flex bu getting rid of that stuff.

heres a link for some new shocks and bumpstops.
http://www.trail-gear.com/shocks.html
As for good traveling leafs i would also recomend the Alcan's or even All pro. The All pros are cheaper but i have had great flex out of mine.
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by fillsrunner4
Ya you arent kiding wow. Do you know what the previos owner was doing with this truck. You said it was a show truck? ive never seen something like this before but ya youl get a ton of flex bu getting rid of that stuff.

heres a link for some new shocks and bumpstops.
http://www.trail-gear.com/shocks.html
As for good traveling leafs i would also recomend the Alcan's or even All pro. The All pros are cheaper but i have had great flex out of mine.
Thanks... lol... show truck? HEEEEECK NO. I bought it at some used car lot. All 4 fenders were rusted, the muffler was missing a bolt and it rattled like hell, the seats were full of dog hair, the driver side window didn't roll up and it had rained inside and was full of dirt, it wasn't red anymore it was a weird pink and the salesman sold it to me for almost half the asking price. But I saw a diamond in the rough. Now, I just gotta fix it how it should be.

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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 10:56 PM
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wow thats all i can say is wow now onthem there chevys i want some!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! but how?
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 11:01 PM
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anything is posible lol. i was gonna say about it being a show truck ummmm haha. thats funny. You truck should be flex nicely once you get that stuff out of there.

Just a 22re search chevy springs and im sure youll find your answere on how
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by AxleIke
Half? More like 1/200000000th. That rear end is fubar.
Something about that makes me laugh......
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 11:50 PM
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do the coils conect to the leef maby there a upp graded load stopp thingy so wen you put heavyer loads on ??
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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 05:33 AM
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Looks like someone cheated on fixing the rear sag. I really don't like that approach: http://www.gearinstalls.com/dc.htm

Like has been said, ditch the coils and replace those overload shocks with normal ones then go from there.
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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 06:26 AM
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leaves and 2 coils? madness..
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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 06:35 AM
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leaves and 2 coils? madness..
you bet. I can't even begin to figure out all the counterforcing going on there. It's pretty outrageous.
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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by amgraham
Looks like someone cheated on fixing the rear sag. I really don't like that approach: http://www.gearinstalls.com/dc.htm

Like has been said, ditch the coils and replace those overload shocks with normal ones then go from there.
I've seen that page before and never thought of my truck lol. So, that fixes the rear end, but those trucks are flexless? Even that big white toyota p/u & gray Runner? I wouldn't like to drive on a trail without some decent flex.. ..on Colorado trails at least.

Does anyone have any pics of what my setup SHOULD look like, once I clean everything up?
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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Djlarroc
But, I do have coils back there. I have a short coil with a bump stop under it and another one that goes around the shock (besides my leaf springs). Ck it out:


Also, what shocks should I look for? I don't want to go wheeling again until I get this fixed..also, I took off my anti sway bar and that helped the front, but are there any quick disconnects for a 1st gen? I saw some for a 2nd gen.
Thanks guys!
Get rid of that crap asap, that is exactly what is limiting your flex. Also to fit a little longer shock without welding etc. check out these http://www.budbuilt.com/new/shock_mounts.html . Personally I would weld new ones on but I know that not everyone can weld so this is a great alternative. To measure for shocks you could probably just go tell them you need shocks for 2 inches of lift. Im sure if you order the kit from Bud and tell him your trucks specs, he will have a reccomendation. I had those crappy coil things on the back of an FJ60 I had, and they pretty much eliminated flex altogether. Good luck

Even if you remove those coils and shocks and just put the right sized shocks in the stock position you will be flexing a lot more

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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 09:55 AM
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Here's stock-ish before I flipped my U-bolts and did the new shock mounts.





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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by 88-surf
do the coils conect to the leef maby there a upp graded load stopp thingy so wen you put heavyer loads on ??
Thats exactly what they are. They are meant for when you OVERLOAD a vehicle, like a cheap helper spring, but I've seen a lot of people put them on the back of sagging 4Runners and that's exactly why my FJ60 had them. They make the ride really rough, and rob 90% of any flex you could ever have.
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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 04:18 PM
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Those shock mounts from bud built look pretty cool. Besides geting the shocks up and out of the way, will that set up give the truck more flex. Im going to be putting on 3in lift springs and maybe a 2in bl in the next couple weeks. Would it be worth getting a u bolt flip kit and that shock set up? I plan on running the bilstein 5100's. Sorry, didnt mean to hijack the post.

Thanks, Bryan
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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 04:28 PM
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chevy's are they way to go, they flex WAY more than what is pictured, and they ride nice and soft too


for the total cost of doing a chevy swap, with a u-bolt flip and shock relocation it's one of the best set-ups. just in case your wondering a chevy sawp with the other two mods costs about $400, even cheaper if you kow someone who will wled it for free
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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by LTrunner
chevy's are they way to go, they flex WAY more than what is pictured, and they ride nice and soft too


for the total cost of doing a chevy swap, with a u-bolt flip and shock relocation it's one of the best set-ups. just in case your wondering a chevy sawp with the other two mods costs about $400, even cheaper if you kow someone who will wled it for free
where's your rollbar, son? don't ya know it's dangerous without them thingers???
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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 04:47 PM
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The only problem with the chevy springs is that they raise the truck too much if you want to keep the IFS stock.
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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 05:22 PM
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So..leme get this straight.. Which options are available? Doing new leafs 'n shocks? or Chevy coil conversion & keep the same leaf springs, with shocks also?

Edit: So if I wana keep it IFS (which I do). Just get new leafs?
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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by bob200587
The only problem with the chevy springs is that they raise the truck too much if you want to keep the IFS stock.

couple relatively simple temp fixes until u can lift the front.

play with the leaf combo. until it sits level.
shorter shackle (make one its pretty simple, can be done with hand tools, will take a while)


Check out this link. http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...threadid=20665

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