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Old Mar 22, 2009 | 09:43 AM
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Damn p.o!!!!

Allright so i decided today to tear into my hubs cuz they need to be taken apart and re-greased after taking the hub apart i discover a boogered up lock nut (the 54mm one) decide to lift that tire off the ground and what do ya know the hubs wobbly so i decide to take apart the wheel bearings and regrease them and again i discovered a FUBARED spindle............i have a 6 inch lift on the truck, and its IFS does any 6 inch lifts come with lift spindles?? as in this is gonna cost me more than a junkyard run? looks like im gonna have to replace the spindle, hub, rotor, and lockout hubs, bearings prolly on both sides ....im wanting to later on SAS the truck so should i just let her sit and build up funds instead of wasting money on ifs parts? lemme know what you guys think, and about the lift spindle Q? stupid P.O's
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Old Mar 22, 2009 | 09:46 AM
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SAS that beast now..........
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Old Mar 22, 2009 | 09:46 AM
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If you are going SAS, why waste the money now on IFS. Sounds like its straight axle time.
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Old Mar 22, 2009 | 09:47 AM
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Oh yeah i forgot the wonderful pics!!!!




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Old Mar 22, 2009 | 09:48 AM
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the only reason for the question of replacing the IFS parts is my only transportation is an 08 GSXR 600.......and its starting to be rainy season......in FL....bad combo
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Old Mar 22, 2009 | 09:52 AM
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Hum.......

Well if you have broken/bent steering/front suspension components i wouldn't feel too safe driving on it... but thats just me..
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Old Mar 22, 2009 | 09:54 AM
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yeah i went threw a bad hub prob in a 2wd ford replaced the bearings 3 times....not good, the wheel works its way off the spindle...all thos lock nuts and washers, their just for show so anybody on the lift spindle? is it just a regular one or a lifted one?

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Old Mar 22, 2009 | 10:00 AM
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Lift spindles are that.. LIFT spindles...

I still have all my ifs parts so let me know if you need anything..
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Old Mar 22, 2009 | 10:25 AM
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Oh' man, talk about a chisel leaving its mark?
it's a good thing you decided to tear in there to look around.

hey, do you hear that? SAS... SAS... SAS...
just kidding. when the budgets right, do it man!

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Old Mar 22, 2009 | 10:35 AM
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i dont believe that anyone makes lift spindles for our trucks... probably just the stockers...

how did you come up with 6 inches of lift??
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Old Mar 22, 2009 | 11:33 AM
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if it wasn't so chewed up back where the inner seal runs, I'd say you'd probably be safe re-using it; the bearing itself doesn't ride on the spindle, they ride on the race of the bearing that rests on the spindle

but, I highly doubt that a new seal is going to seal itself to that spindle... unfortunately...

yeah and as far as I know, all of the IFS bracket lifts re-use the stock spindle; they have extra bracketry that bolts to it to move the location of the upper ball joint and the tie-rod end mounting. pull the dust sheild off and take a pic, we'll be able to tell you for sure

and I'm kinda as well by how you're factoring 6" lift, as most of the IFS lifts are only 4 - 4 1/2" IIRC... body lift maybe? maybe just fed incorrect info from the PO... cause it's obvious he didn't know what he was doing when he did those bearings seriously, how do you do that to the nut...

but I don't see any need to replace the locking hubs and/or rotors; is there some visual damage to them? all that I can see is a scared spindle...


btw, that old grease look fabulous!


oh yeah, post some pics of those old bearings too I'm kinda curious, lol


also, if it'll help, here's the thread of my bearings and hubs rebuild
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116...ry-day-156896/

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Old Mar 22, 2009 | 11:48 AM
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lol the old bearings were actually fine, i guess that had replaced them cuz of the old ones blowing out, and yes the po said it had a 6" lift with a 3" body but yeah of course hes a jackass, i fugred in the whole hub assembly just to be sure (that was the prob with my ford not the spindle) and the lockouts cuz thats the whole reason i started the project, cuz the driverside wont lockout, but i took everything out repacked the bearings re-greased the spindle put it all back in(the lock washer had the keyway chewed off also) and it doesent have any wobble now? guess it wasent tight enough, still not gonna try running on it tho, and also figured out i have a massive steering joint failure.....my left tire can turn in 3" before being stopped by the steering linkage, all the joints need to be replaced...and i havent even taken apart the pass side that has dried up grease in it...

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Old Mar 22, 2009 | 01:15 PM
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With all thats wrong in those pictures, i would consider the SAS unless you can get a good deal on the parts you need at a wrecking yard.
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Old Mar 22, 2009 | 01:31 PM
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SAS is what I would do if I could afford it. Keep your brake calipers as you will probably want to use them on the solid axle along with 1980 or so Land Cruiser discs. Keeps vented rotors up front. Solid axles only have thinner solid discs from the factory.
Thats just my 2 cents.
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Old Mar 22, 2009 | 03:11 PM
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call me crazy, but I don't see a whole lot of damage, and I think a used spindle would be a lot cheapers than a SAS

chances are the hub wouldn't unlock because the PO put it together wrong my the PO of my 91 screwed up in putting the passenger side together and it wouldn't unlock, leading to the inner CV boot's destruction on BOTH SIDES

but if really wanna do the SAS now, then go right ahead, but post lots of pics!

also, the steering wobble, I'd figure that out before driving it at all; 3" would scare me. I've got a thread on that too
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116...n-pics-169008/

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Old Mar 22, 2009 | 03:17 PM
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yeah theres not too much damage, it spins pretty freely, but all the balljoints need replaced as well as all the steering joints..the balljoints alone are gonna be 220 dunno bout the steering and a spindle about 50, and i need to get a set of used aisins so thats another 100 so thats about i dunno 500 that could just go to the SAS
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Old Mar 22, 2009 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by yoterr
yeah theres not too much damage, it spins pretty freely, but all the balljoints need replaced as well as all the steering joints..the balljoints alone are gonna be 220 dunno bout the steering and a spindle about 50, and i need to get a set of used aisins so thats another 100 so thats about i dunno 500 that could just go to the SAS
geez, I didn't pay that much for my BJ's and steering linkage...

but when you put it like that, yeah you're well on your way into SAS $$$ territory
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Old Mar 22, 2009 | 05:02 PM
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correct me if I'm wrong, but it's 4wd, right?
So what you're looking at isn't a 'spindle'... it's the stub from the outer CV joint.
... replace the outer joint and call it good.

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Old Mar 22, 2009 | 05:13 PM
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uhhhh.....isnt it kinda like a floater axle with a spindle then the CV axle pokes out at the end for the lockout hub.....? cuz i know that the spindle looking guy is atached to the steering knuckles and such, just like a 2wd spindle, if you look at the last pic you can see the C'clip holding the CV from poping out
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Old Mar 22, 2009 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by yoterr
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correct me if I'm wrong, but it's 4wd, right?
So what you're looking at isn't a 'spindle'... it's the stub from the outer CV joint.
... replace the outer joint and call it good.
I think the part that has the gashes in it is called a "spindle". Looks like the bearing chewed it up and those 54mm nuts were "tightened" with a screwdriver it looks like. Invest in a 54mm socket.

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