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Old 08-09-2008, 09:14 AM
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first my buddies 4runner 3.0 now mine, fricken losing compression on the same fricken cylinder, cylinder 4.... im really about done with this fricken thing, i've rebuilt the engine and cleaned this thing up, i've spent more money on this vehicle then dam near any vehicle i've ever owned and i still have a vehicle thats unreliable and way fricken under powered...wth is there a 1990 4runner that truly is a good vehicle??? i've never owned a jeep but im tellin ya im about super close to selling this hunk of metal and gettin a cherokee

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Old 08-09-2008, 09:27 AM
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you need a 22re second gen.. i have 2 and they really are great engines if you take care of them and arnt looking for a race car

owned 4runner since 1987 in my family been driving 22re since i began driving
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dont need a racecar just need enough power to get to work and back and merge into traffic....i think i need ta sell this thing and start allllll over
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my 3.0's are not very powerfull, my 93 barely merges safely, my 94(5spd) is much better, that being said, I think they are way more reliable than a cherokee, the motor and tranny will last forever in a cherokee, but they will nickle and dime u to death on the small bs. I personally...would rather wrench on my rigs once or twice a year, then have to be out in the garage all the time...my time is valuable to me.
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Most of you are running 31s with 4.10. I was and my truck was a dog. I now have 4.56s and it makes a huge difference. My truck feels plenty powerful even with a 22re.
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Oh man.....that's too bad. You're not the first this has happened to, though. That is why the 3.4 swap is so recommended.

Hate if for ya, dude, but don't let that burn you from Yotas altogether. Every company's entitled to one lemon.
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Dude that sucks!! I am having the same feelings.... once I get this 3.POS done I am putting a TBI 350 in my 95 runner. with the power to weight ratio I should get in the mid 20's on mpg. that would be an inprovment over the 3.0.....just something to think about.

I have 3 of the 3.0 and all are junk. I wish I know then what I know now

Good luck and I'll be starting a thread on installing a 22re into a 2gen runner here soon.
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I saw a for sale sign on a Yota the other day... I stopped by and dude said it needed some work he wanted 500 for it.. I was onboard until i raised the hood and saw the 3.slow.. No thanks...
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I saw a for sale sign on a Yota the other day... I stopped by and dude said it needed some work he wanted 500 for it.. I was onboard until i raised the hood and saw the 3.slow.. No thanks...
yeah i worked for toyota for a couple years not to long ago and they are a good company, but id love to know what kinda stoners they had working for them when they decided that 150 horses would move over 4000 lbs worth of a 4runner, and then install and engine thats a pos too. it sucks azz because this 4runner is a nice lookin vehicle and its got some style to it. and honestly id save up the 1500 bucks for a long block, but then i'll have a vehicle with the slow azz engine in it for 1500 more bucks. id put a 3.4 in it but 2 issues with that, i dont have the fricken 3-4 grand and it doesnt wire up to the tranny right...wth? i think im focken on this runner
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IIRC, there are folks that have been able to install a 3.4 for atleast half that price, 76ANTHONY. That really is a nice 4rnr. I'd hate to see you give it up too quickly without atleast checking around some more.
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Originally Posted by 76ANTHONY
id put a 3.4 in it but 2 issues with that, i dont have the fricken 3-4 grand and it doesnt wire up to the tranny right...wth? i think im focken on this runner
It doesnt wire up to the trans
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Originally Posted by BAMF_CT2004
It doesnt wire up to the trans
nope, something about a solenoid or something, but if i use a t100 ecm and engine from 1995 im thinking it may wire right up and tow 3500 lbs safely, if thats the case then im gonna try and do this with my tax return and see what happens. i may have just picked up a job that gives me a vehicle to drive, if thats the case then i have the time to do it right, i can use my trans and i can tow my boat, that is 100% a problem solver right there and i can keep my baby........
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Originally Posted by thook
IIRC, there are folks that have been able to install a 3.4 for atleast half that price, 76ANTHONY. That really is a nice 4rnr. I'd hate to see you give it up too quickly without atleast checking around some more.
i dont want to sell her so im doing a crap load of checking about swaps, i love my runner and its got some nice style to it too...even found a nice hoodscoop if i do the swap
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Actually, there is only 1 or two wires that need to be bridged.... Not a big deal
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Originally Posted by 76ANTHONY
fist my buddies....
Don't you think it's about time to go back and edit the first post?
It's getting harder and harder to not get deranged.
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Originally Posted by 76ANTHONY
nope, something about a solenoid or something, but if i use a t100 ecm and engine from 1995 im thinking it may wire right up and tow 3500 lbs safely, if thats the case then im gonna try and do this with my tax return and see what happens. i may have just picked up a job that gives me a vehicle to drive, if thats the case then i have the time to do it right, i can use my trans and i can tow my boat, that is 100% a problem solver right there and i can keep my baby........
Don't bother, cut your loses now and get a newer 4Runner 96-00 for a decent price. Just think the next thing to go is probably your transmission. I have a 3.0 in my 89 and it is absolutely the biggest gas pig I ever owned. I had many V8's get better gas mileage. Heck my 75 Olds Cutlass with a 4 barrel got better gas mileage than this truck does. Did I mention my head gasket blew as well? I put some homemade stop leak in it and it seems to be working. That is why within the next couple of weeks a Chevy 4.3 is going in its place

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Originally Posted by abecedarian
Don't you think it's about time to go back and edit the first post?
It's getting harder and harder to not get deranged.
hey maybe its was a she
fixed it for me, well really for you, but whatever
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Originally Posted by JamesD
Don't bother, cut your loses now and get a newer 4Runner 96-00 for a decent price. Just think the next thing to go is probably your transmission. I have a 3.0 in my 89 and it is absolutely the biggest gas pig I ever owned. I had many V8's get better gas mileage. Heck my 75 Olds Cutlass with a 4 barrel got better gas mileage than this truck does. Did I mention my head gasket blew as well? I put some homemade stop leak in it and it seems to be working. That is why within the next couple of weeks a Chevy 4.3 is going in its place

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ummmm, thats really not an option, im not gonna lose 3 grand on this runner, hell i cant get 1900 for this thing now, so im trying to remedy my situation without losing my azz on this thing. i want to keep it for a while, and i know a couple good tranny guys to hook me up too......
but i do see your point.
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Dude check out the 3.4 swap threads. You should be able to get one for between $800 and $1,200..... Make sure you fet one that matches your tranny (Auto vs manual) Some have increadibly wired their own up ( ELVOTA0 But I am going the ORS wiring harness route ($700) Weither way it will be well worth it!
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Originally Posted by Lysmachia
Dude check out the 3.4 swap threads. You should be able to get one for between $800 and $1,200..... Make sure you fet one that matches your tranny (Auto vs manual) Some have increadibly wired their own up ( ELVOTA0 But I am going the ORS wiring harness route ($700) Weither way it will be well worth it!
i found that i can get the engine, ecm, and wiring harness with all accesories for about 1400-1600 bucks. i think this will be the route i take as long as this tranny thing can be bypassed by a couple wires
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